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Old 09-09-2021, 12:15 PM
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OP's post is worth about what we paid for it. It reeks of petty bias and butthurt feelings. No where close to accurate except the guild ranking and raid time. Most of the people in these guilds came from one of the others at one point.
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:31 PM
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OP's post is worth about what we paid for it. It reeks of petty bias and butthurt feelings. No where close to accurate except the guild ranking and raid time.
Yeah it's pretty clear that OP is former DMO imho. I had quietly blocked a Venerate person from joining FoW because they had a DMO character, who had been in Venerate for about half a year based on discord history. I'm wondering if it's the same person. And even if it isn't - I'm pretty sure his main source is a toxic cleric friend who was booted by us recently. And let me be clear, stuff has to be real bad to be booted as a cleric in Velious raiding guild.

All I really see here is side-effects from removing bad apples, which is to be expected, really. I'm fine being flamed by bad apples with sour grapes if it means the guild tag is trusted by those who's situations were resolved among the majority of folks on the server.

The only people who really have big problems with FoW will naturally be Seal Team, because we whistle-blowed some stuff from them recently. But again, Seal Team doesn't represent the entire server - and I'm fine with the guild standing up for itself when it appears to be bullied.

OP - your sources are wrong/biased, but your name appears accurate! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 09-09-2021, 12:32 PM
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PS - also.. why shit on FoH and Gathered Might? What did they do to you?
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:05 PM
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Yeah it's pretty clear that OP is former DMO imho. I had quietly blocked a Venerate person from joining FoW because they had a DMO character, who had been in Venerate for about half a year based on discord history. I'm wondering if it's the same person. And even if it isn't - I'm pretty sure his main source is a toxic cleric friend who was booted by us recently. And let me be clear, stuff has to be real bad to be booted as a cleric in Velious raiding guild.

All I really see here is side-effects from removing bad apples, which is to be expected, really. I'm fine being flamed by bad apples with sour grapes if it means the guild tag is trusted by those who's situations were resolved among the majority of folks on the server.

The only people who really have big problems with FoW will naturally be Seal Team, because we whistle-blowed some stuff from them recently. But again, Seal Team doesn't represent the entire server - and I'm fine with the guild standing up for itself when it appears to be bullied.

OP - your sources are wrong/biased, but your name appears accurate! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
I am former <Venerate> member. I am not a member of DMO. And not allowing someone in a guild is quite petty when they have a character in a RP guild. I don't judge people on guilds I judge them by character. The members I interviewed that left <Venerate> were some of the most active members in <Venerate> and the most helpful. Not going to point fingers but they are some of my good friends. Some of my sources are inaccurate (sorry seal team for the misconception) and I do try to fix it. But the information on FOW was taken straight from the UN and from active former members of both Venerate and Black Lotus.

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Old 09-09-2021, 05:20 PM
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Yeah it's pretty clear that OP is former DMO imho. I had quietly blocked a Venerate person from joining FoW because they had a DMO character, who had been in Venerate for about half a year based on discord history.
Wow [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Sounds like a really inclusive guild you got there.
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Old 09-09-2021, 03:10 PM
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OP's post is worth about what we paid for it. It reeks of petty bias and butthurt feelings. No where close to accurate except the guild ranking and raid time. Most of the people in these guilds came from one of the others at one point.
None of the members I interviewed were butt hurt about loot. They were all concerned about the state of the guild and how it was ran. When I was in <Venerate>, I was a casual player and never cared about loot. You were OK in <Venerate>. The raid leading and toxicity was the main reason for many active members leaving. (you might know who they are). Yes, many people leave and go but not without their concerns and words to be spoke. No guild is perfect. Not everyone who left a guild is an asshole who only cares about pixels.

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Old 09-09-2021, 01:04 PM
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Not defending OP but he did say he got most of his information from ex-members of

said guild who left on their own accord

and from spectating the UN and playing the game :P
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:19 PM
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Not defending OP but he did say he got most of his information from ex-members of

said guild who left on their own accord

and from spectating the UN and playing the game :P
Dude, I cannot tell you how many applications I've read where someone said "they left" their former guild or "left on good terms". And then I shoot a tell to someone I know in that former guild and they are like "No, we booted that motherf*cker. lol" or I search their name on the P1999 forums and see a flame post where the guild leader is quietly explaining that they had to remove said person for repeated bad behavior.

TL : DR - People lie, yo. And with good reason, rejection sucks. No one is going to advertise that, they are going to spin that they had their foot out the door anyway.
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:06 PM
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Honestly FOW is good people, but I left Venerate for the same reason as a lot of my

friends =(
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Old 09-09-2021, 01:26 PM
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Sounds like we need to create ratemyguild.com so guild employees can submit crucial feedback to management about their organizations!
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