p99 at lowest point since launch

[Bardp1999]

You overuse the term gaslighting and sound stupid when posting it non-relevantly

[cd288]

Why does OP care so much

[Nutsax]

Originally Posted by Bardp1999 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You overuse the term gaslighting and sound stupid when posting it non-relevantly

Let me help you, when a person writes you use your eyes not your ears dummy.




































Boxing = Perma Ban

Gaslighting?

[Bardp1999]

stop gaslighting me maggot

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Clazxiss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think this is the most relevant comment of the thread. Lots of people wearing rose tinted glasses regarding ToV without unrooted dragons. I'll state that the farthest I've ever gone into ToV was killing trashing in the East wing I think it is? My experience in ToV is nada compared to some of the mighty stay at home sons in this threads.

With that said, what I do remember are the copious amounts of angry threads regarding trains, kill steals, and raid bans. For every infraction, there were dozens of petitions, from representatives guilds, hoping to zerg first to a GM response. It was some of the most hilarious reading I've set my eyes on when it comes to complaining about online games. While it was funny, it lead to the changes so many people in this thread complain about.

Put yourselves in the shoes of the volunteer staff and imagine starting your shift with manifestos about who did what with dragon X. Do that possibly 3 times a week, for 1 to 4 years. When you make you come to a conclusion about how to resolve the conflict, you still get a slew of people who spit and berate you. Unlike the referee on tv, you're not getting paid for this BS. Not only that, your bans can be circumvented with a VPN and the creation of multiple accounts. Sad example of this being someone that GM Braknar had crossed. For anyone who used the P99 discord, you probably saw someone spamming nasty things about Braknar and his family. It wasn't for a little while either. Whoever that particular mental case was, he went above and beyond to keep making accounts for a time to continue the spam. It was unnerving.

P99 has been called a museum multiple times. While you're allowed to ignore the donation box as you enter to enjoy the museum, it doesn't give you permission to crap it up. The greatest sin ever committed in the game of Everquest is the sin of "Ruining your own Lands." In this case, the players ruined their own lands and the GMs said, "You shall not ruin mine!"

Wasn't that greengrocer? A former GM no?

Your sig is literally complaining about blue. You never raided ToV during any era. Petitions are just as pathetic... no definitely more pathetic and wordy than they were then. Beef may be QQing, i am not. I perfectly understand how we got to where we are.

Also my mommy loves me

[Bardp1999]

Green Grocer was definitely a GM who was let go and went full retard against the server staff - Fatnar in particular. It went so far as I believe Rogean called his boss IRL and the dude ended up getting fired. GG leaked a bunch of CSR chat logs and exposed some of the nasty underbelly of P99.

He then proceeded to lose his mind - a quick google search can confirm Grocer-Gate

Go under advanced search and click in the User Name field and type in "BRAKNAR" and look at what populates - thats all Grocer right there.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by pogs4ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s not worth the time to log in and get trAined for an hour. Braknar was right all along.

See people say stuff like this and yet it is very few and far between that this happens. Lets just look at some numbers:

Since Freedom was formed in July 2020, which lead to teaming with AG and the first real competition on the server since 2019, it has been 57 weeks.

Every week, Fr/AG / Vanquish and Riot have competed on, lets say ~25 mobs.

53*25 = 1325 competitive raids (Figuring the times that there was concessions or one guild was locked or another guild just didnt have the numbers to compete balances out with the respawns / quakes in that time this number is pretty close to accurate.)

Of those 1325 raids there have been roughly 30 petitions against each other. Thats ~2% of the time there is an issue that cannot be resolved without GM intervention.

This idea that:

Originally Posted by pogs4ever [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It’s not worth the time to log in and get trAined for an hour. Braknar was right all along.

Is extreme hyperbole and just an excuse losers and quitters use to spin a narrative because said losers and quitters are losing and quitting.

The GMs hate dealing with petitions, and I get that, but looking at these numbers its really isnt some inordinate amount of times that we have to rely on them to settle something and the constant lies and hyperbole listed by the quoted above and just straight misinformation.

[Ennewi]

Originally Posted by dk0 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

What gets me is that pull-to-entrance was the most accessible ToV has ever been. For all kinds of guilds and players. There's a serious misconception that you need a zerg or had to be crazy hardcore to compete, but that was absolutely not true.

Small guilds like Rustle & Core were very successful. Towards the end, AG started to drop the "casual" image and showed up to compete with some great success. I am absolutely confident any "casual" guild could have put in less effort in ToV than they did on targets like VS, fear golems, etc. and walk away with kills.

Spawn windows were tight in these days. This made raiding very manageable for people with lives outside of EQ. Also because of this, just by showing up for a few hours each cycle, there was a solid chance you could bag a dragon just because other guilds would be locked in to another target, since many windows would overlap.

Hardcore players got to be hardcore. Spend time on the line, coth mages, whatever role--there was plenty to do for these players. But also casual players got to be casual. Logging in for 10 minutes to stab a dragon is laughed at a lot, but warmbody auto-attackers make raiding incredibly accessible to casual players who can't commit to multiple-hour clears.

It was literally a win/win for everybody. I know petitions got intense and too frequent, but has it gotten any better?

Nowadays it's a numbers game. You will always have a single dominant guild rather than real competition because it's about getting sheer numbers. Success yields growth, and so it takes a long time to curb the momentum of a successful guild.

I haven't played in a while but apparently there are bag limits and/or rotations on the server now. In the time it takes to kill a single charity dragon, any guild could have had put a system in place (placed coth mages, setup a test server, practiced pulls, etc.) to compete every week and result in way more pixels. Oh well, I do genuinely hope people are having fun.

Since I assume we're never going back to rooted dragons, my opinion is that the server needs a brand new ruleset that's designed for the current meta rather than rehashed rules that were created for a completely different era. But that's another discussion.

Unrooted dragons were fun for the pull team, but that amounted to a small fraction of each raid force. The zone and the rest of its spawns were out of sight, out of mind for the majority who may as well have been warm bodies for how much they contributed. Few commands needed to be followed and not much attention had to be paid.

With push interrupts, very little differentiated one dragon from another. Right and left cubby were the new lairs for a lot of the dragons, each one isolated from any of the hazards and mishaps that came with crawling through the zone. Vyemm's knockback was inconsequential there, a slight rollercoaster thrill for DPS and nothing more.

EQ was mostly a PVE game. While that translated into Players Versus Non-Player Characters, the environment was still supposed to be half of the battle. Certain spells have zone restrictions, most notably levitate in Plane of Sky. But the NPCs and their corners of the zones were created with each other in mind. Eejag can't be pulled out of the lava to the Nektulos or Najena zoneline. Brother Jentry is tethered to Sir Lucan. Icy terrors have a knockback to toss players into bear pits. The list goes on.

If people aren't going to roleplay, if only a fraction of them are going to be put to use, and if there is no zone layout to traverse other than the designated kill spots, the letters in MMORPG don't represent much of anything.

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Detoxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

See people say stuff like this and yet it is very few and far between that this happens. Lets just look at some numbers:

Since Freedom was formed in July 2020, which lead to teaming with AG and the first real competition on the server since 2019, it has been 57 weeks.

Every week, Fr/AG / Vanquish and Riot have competed on, lets say ~25 mobs.

53*25 = 1325 competitive raids (Figuring the times that there was concessions or one guild was locked or another guild just didnt have the numbers to compete balances out with the respawns / quakes in that time this number is pretty close to accurate.)

Of those 1325 raids there have been roughly 30 petitions against each other. Thats ~2% of the time there is an issue that cannot be resolved without GM intervention.

This idea that:


Is extreme hyperbole and just an excuse losers and quitters use to spin a narrative because said losers and quitters are losing and quitting.

The GMs hate dealing with petitions, and I get that, but looking at these numbers its really isnt some inordinate amount of times that we have to rely on them to settle something and the constant lies and hyperbole listed by the quoted above and just straight misinformation.

Hmm.. less petitions now than before april 2018?

[Twochain]

Originally Posted by Twochain [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hmm.. less petitions now than before april 2018?

2019 woops