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Old 05-04-2021, 02:32 PM
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Maybe watch the video first. The Dutch guy being interviewed is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology.

If he's wrong that's a good thing. If he's right, then things are going to be not so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro
1. "Important counterpoint to Dr. Bossche’s claim is that we can simply reformulate our vaccines to match new variants of concern. There is a reason why a new flu vaccine is made each year: the influenza virus drifts and shifts and the vaccine needs to be reformulated to be a better match for the specific viruses that are predicted to be common during the next flu season."

2. "But even if the COVID-19 vaccines still allowed some vaccinated people to transmit the virus to others, there is evidence that they could still efficiently contain the spread of the disease. Edward Nirenberg, a science blogger who addressed Dr. Bossche’s claims in great detail, points to Marek’s disease. It is caused by a herpesvirus and it gives chickens a number of health problems, including cancer. Thankfully, there is a vaccine against it, but over time, newer and more virulent strains of the virus have been detected, and this made scientists think it was because the vaccine was leaky, that it did not allow the chicken to mount a good enough immune response. Interestingly enough, the use of this seemingly leaky vaccine in chickens led to a reduction in the incidence of Marek’s disease by 99%. Potentially leaky vaccine but stellar disease reduction."

Why oh why is anti-vaccine now the new political right agenda.
Even Tom Tucker is pushing Anti-Vaxxer garbage. And Fox practically programs their viewers.
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:30 PM
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There is a reason why a new flu vaccine is made each year: the influenza virus drifts and shifts and the vaccine needs to be reformulated to be a better match for the specific viruses that are predicted to be common during the next flu season."
Is there a word for comparing the covid mutation rate with that of the influenza virus?
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Old 05-04-2021, 03:41 PM
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Why oh why is anti-vaccine now the new political right agenda.
Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.

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heres a novel idea

dont get the vaccine and let your body do what its designed to do
Really just this. Every day I go outside and I see the incredible ecosystem of nature in all of its complexity, harmony, and majesty, and I just laugh at the utter absurdity of Pfizer's chimpanzees in suits (suitably shaved) trying to improve my cellular programming.
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Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.



Really just this. Every day I go outside and I see the incredible ecosystem of nature in all of its complexity, harmony, and majesty, and I just laugh at the utter absurdity of Pfizer's chimpanzees in suits (suitably shaved) trying to improve my cellular programming.
You're vaccinated for a dozen other things. Why is the Covid vaccine suddenly where you draw the line?
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:39 PM
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You're vaccinated for a dozen other things. Why is the Covid vaccine suddenly where you draw the line?
TBH I was rather in the dark about vaccines until I did my homework following the COVID lockdowns. I have to admit it took me a quite a while to accept that our entire medical profession was literally designed to kill people. Did you know that 250,000 people die every year from medical errors? It's the third leading cause of death, and that's only what they admit to. It does, however, generate trillions in revenue per year, and hey, what's important?
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:36 PM
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Did you read the article in the OP which shows that the COVID spike proteins generated by mRNA vaccines cause lung and blood vessel damage? Did you know that there is no proof COVID vaccines keep you from dying of COVID or even transmitting it to others? The trials only proved that people would get sick less, and that is most easily accomplished by nuking your immune system to prevent it from reacting strongly to an exterior threat.

Anti-vaccine would be common sense in any era not dominated by Big Pharma propaganda.
No proof Covid vaccines keep you from dying of Covid or even transmit to others?
You haven’t heard of clinical trials?

Even after ... 140 million+ in the US have been vaccinated and your statements do not measure up to your extremes.

Every time you get a vaccination you aren’t “nuking” your immune system.

And yes there are clinical trials that showed the Covid vaccine prevented many from getting Covid.

And if you say prove to me it can’t happen then that’s just a fallacy in informal logic.
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Old 05-04-2021, 05:41 PM
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No proof Covid vaccines keep you from dying of Covid or even transmit to others? You haven’t heard of clinical trials?
I phrased my statement very carefully. The clinical trials for the Pfizer and Moderna vaccines did not measure the rate of deaths for the participants. Nor did they measure whether vaccinated people were contagious. They only measured the number of people who got a cold.
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:39 PM
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Maybe watch the video first. The Dutch guy being interviewed is a Doctor of Veterinary Medicine who has specialist expertise in virology and vaccinology.

If he's wrong that's a good thing. If he's right, then things are going to be not so good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNyAovuUxro
Are you quoting a vet in an argument about human health lol
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Old 05-04-2021, 06:56 PM
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Are you quoting a vet in an argument about human health lol
He has the degrees in vet and virology you need to work at the highest level biological research facilities. Like the one they had in Wuhan... where the virus mysteriously just "popped up" and was instantaneity the most infections virus known to man.

edit - the veteranary degree is needed because they test these viruses on animals. Using game of function research, you inject the virus into a lets say 1000 rats, you then extract the virus that works in the rats and you move up to weasels, inject that into 1000 weasels, you find the strains that work on that then you inject those into 1000 dogs, then cats, etc.
The types of animals used in these bio labs that would have researched covid19 are types of animals that actually can be infected with covid19. To stop a virus you need to know its origin and it makes a huge difference if the origin of the virus was in a lab over naturally occurring.

Not to mention whos to blame for all the deaths, future effects on our health, and the state of the worlds economy from being forced to lock down.
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Old 05-04-2021, 02:31 PM
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Bullshit. Obese boomers and old people were going to die anyways. They can't faced their fate. Ever seen an old obese person?
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