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Zuranthium · #1 05-13-2011, 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by soup [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

In essence, what you're doing is asking them to change their goal.

Usually a good thing to do after you realize your goal is impossible.

And, no, I'm not specifically saying they need to change their goal. If people want to try and experience EQ exactly as it was, then be my guest. I guarantee you will fail, but you can try. And once "the timeline" runs out changes will need to be made and/or content will need to be added. So, again, if you do not want to participate in thinking ahead, you should really just go log into the game right now and stop posting.

In actuality, you probably ARE playing the game right now and minimizing during downtime to do other things on the internet. Hey, guess what, that is not classic EQ.

username17 · #2 05-13-2011, 09:30 PM

The goal of p1999 is not to provide a classic experience.
The goal is to provide a Day 1 - Velious server on the same time line as Live.
This is absolutely possible.

As stated before, everyone's 'classic' experience is different. People come and go, join late, join early, etc. It's up to the players to experience the game how they please

The devs are here are to provide a means, the end is up to the player.

Zuranthium · #3 05-13-2011, 09:34 PM

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The devs are here are to provide a means.

Exactly, it just needs to be established what means are necessary to achieve the desired result.

Widan · #4 05-14-2011, 12:09 AM

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The goal of p1999 is not to provide a classic experience.
The goal is to provide a Day 1 - Velious server on the same time line as Live.
This is absolutely possible.

Hey man sorry to be the one to tell you this, but this goal failed long ago. They are implementing content as quick as they can with limited resources, but the timeline is much longer here than it was on live.

soup · #5 05-13-2011, 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Usually a good thing to do after you realize your goal is impossible.

And, no, I'm not specifically saying they need to change their goal. If people want to try and experience EQ exactly as it was, then be my guest. I guarantee you will fail, but you can try. And once "the timeline" runs out changes will need to be made and/or content will need to be added. So, again, if you do not want to participate in thinking ahead, you should really just go log into the game right now and stop posting.

In actuality, you probably ARE playing the game right now and minimizing during downtime to do other things on the internet. Hey, guess what, that is not classic EQ.

And hey, guess what, the server isn't about catering a classic experience to each player. It's about recreating the original EQ timeline. That is the goal, and any suggesting in regards to custom content is counterproductive to that goal. So by suggesting these stuff you are either asking them to change their goal, or ignore it to make you happy. Both are pointless and bordering on rude. They have a goal. Recreate the original EQ timeline. If you want to help, find stuff that isn't classic, find evidence to show what would make it classic, then submit your evidence. Anything past that is just a pipe dream.

Why aren't you going to servers that have a custom experience as their goal and offering your suggestions there? Why do you come to the server that has a goal of recreating the classic timeline and propose non-classic additions, when there are servers specifically for custom content? Oh, right, because you want YOUR vision of the best EQ to be thrown onto this server because this is where everyone is playing. Why is everyone playing here? Because it's recreating classic EQ, not making some custom version.

Zuranthium · #6 05-13-2011, 10:42 PM

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Why is everyone playing here? Because it's recreating classic EQ, not making some custom version.

Yes, everyone wants to relive the glory days. People think that because EQ is being recreated in paint-by-the-book fashion, they will get the same experience as before (or be able to experience what they heard about and missed out on). I'm simply arguing that such a thing is not the case and I'm completely sure everyone would still want to play on this server if there were minor deviations made from the paint-by-the-book model that would improve the product and in fact create MORE of a classic EQ experience.

enatomi · #7 05-13-2011, 11:31 PM

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I'm simply arguing that such a thing is not the case and I'm completely sure everyone would still want to play on this server if there were minor deviations made from the paint-by-the-book model that would improve the product and in fact create MORE of a classic EQ experience.

Tell me though how your suggestions move anyway at all towards more of a classic EQ experience. By implementing aspects that were never found in live, you are moving in the opposite direction.

Nagash · #8 05-13-2011, 11:37 PM

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People think that because EQ is being recreated in paint-by-the-book fashion, they will get the same experience as before (or be able to experience what they heard about and missed out on).

How do you manage to read people's mind in order to know what they think? Even if you guess (and then it's just a guess) by reading the forum, the number of posters here is only a tiny percentage of the number of players playing on the server. Considering it as representative is being grossly mislead.

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Originally Posted by Zuranthium [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm simply arguing that such a thing is not the case and I'm completely sure everyone would still want to play on this server if there were minor deviations made from the paint-by-the-book model that would improve the product and in fact create MORE of a classic EQ experience.

So if we come back to your initial post, from you perspective, changing the way charm works to make it permanent is a minor deviation? Man, what is it you're smoking? I want the same stuff, it looks quite potent [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hamahakki · #9 05-14-2011, 01:04 AM

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If people want to try and experience EQ exactly as it was, then be my guest.

Most sensible thing he's said yet.

username17 · #10 05-13-2011, 09:40 PM

By what means? They stick to the goal by not making random changes that are proven to have NOT existed at our current point in the time line.

Any/all changes are verified and proven to have existed on Live at our specific point in the time line.
Suggestions for changing things to mirror that which was NOT on live is pointless and a waste of time.

Edit: No one cares about your suggestions because we are too busy enjoying our classic experience.
(Forgive me here for speaking as the whole) When the time comes that we have reached the end of our journey and done everything there is to do, then we can discuss making non-classic changes.