Soulbinders?

[Mcbard]

There are a couple of people in this thread that seem to be playing the wrong game.. or at the very least playing on the wrong server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Malrubius]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There are a couple of people in this thread that seem to be playing the wrong game.. or at the very least playing on the wrong server. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kind of what I was about to say when I saw that this thread was still going for some reason.

There don't have to be any losers in this discussion! If you want Soulbinders, play on *any* other EQ server and you have them. Seems kind of...passive aggressive...to keep coming to the forums for this one server, and continually whining about their perceived benefits.

No bind for you! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[RiffDaemon]

I'll bind for free whenever I get to 14. So, if you need one and I'm in the area, give me a tell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Lamprey]

I agree. If you want things easy, there's options - any game other than this one. If you're playing here, you get the original experience, warts & all.

Fact is, some people will always whine for "one more thing". First they want an easy way to bind. Then they ask for the Nexus. Then they want ports. Then they want the bazaar. Each of these on its own sounds like a perfectly reasonable request - won't change the game too much, after all. But it's a slippery slope: eventually they realize that the game they're now playing is nothing like the game they started with.

So they come back to a server like this, where things are as they used to be. And they start whining about not being able to bind themselves.

[Messianic]

"I demand mercenaries. If I do not get mercenaries, I am being obviously punished because I can't kill things as easily as necros or mages, so I am being discriminated against because my favorite class isn't a soloing class. All the classes should be homogeneous and flat because I'm too much of a pansy to deal with inequal classes. I should not be punished for my class choice, or, in other words, I should have access to everything everyone else has, regardless of my class choice. I do not care that class choice becomes meaningless if this is the case."

[Kika Maslyaka]

/shrug
as always die hard fans fail to understand a point of this discussion

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

/shrug
as always die hard fans fail to understand a point of this discussion

No, not really. Your point is that it's not balanced for melee classes to have to wait so long for a bind and that certain game mechanics are inherently broken and fixing them can not really cause any harm. Am I wrong?

The point is, that fixing the stuff that is broken or inconveniences people isn't what this server is about. This server is about replicating EQ as it was Classic-Velious, i.e. no soulbinders.

I'm pretty sure that's what the argument(s) boil down to. I don't think anybody missed anything really.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, not really. Your point is that it's not balanced for melee classes to have to wait so long for a bind and that certain game mechanics are inherently broken and fixing them can not really cause any harm. Am I wrong?

The point is, that fixing the stuff that is broken or inconveniences people isn't what this server is about. This server is about replicating EQ as it was Classic-Velious, i.e. no soulbinders.

I'm pretty sure that's what the argument(s) boil down to. I don't think anybody missed anything really.

let me re-quote:

as always die hard fans fail to understand a point of this discussion

I never proposed any changes - I really don't have to, SOE knew it was right thing to do and they did it. The point was to demonstrate that it was a right thing to do.

[Mcbard]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Your point is that it's not balanced for melee classes to have to wait so long for a bind and that certain game mechanics are inherently broken and fixing them can not really cause any harm. Am I wrong?

We know it's broken, and we know that Sony later fixed this. We also know that this server is not intended to do either of those things. Where is the hang up? What am I missing? I would really like to know...

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Mcbard [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We know it's broken, and we know that Sony later fixed this. We also know that this server is not intended to do either of those things. Where is the hang up? What am I missing? I would really like to know...

discussing potential outcome of dropping a nuke on a city, is not the same thing as actually wanting to drop the nuke. Its all that is - discussion and speculation. The hang up is, that die hard fans seem to take anything as a direct threat the precious "classic standards", which will surely fall, if they don't all rush to its defense.