Is Bind Wound worth learning for a Shadowknight?

[Dural_Levant]

Originally Posted by fastboy21 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think it is mostly that most people just objectively don't know how good the benefit from bw is b/c it is so poor at low skill lvl...the average player just forgets about it.

The same guy would drop 60k on a fungi for a twink...but won't carry a few bags of bandages for like 40pp a haul.

At skill 100 (cap on green) you should get 25hp/bandage.
At skill 200 .................... you should get 50hp/bandage.
At skill 210 (class only).... you should get 84hp/bandage.

I believe the reuse (at least on the macro I use in game) is 10 seconds.

Skill 100 = (75hp/30 sec) = 15hp/tick
Skill 200 = (150hp/30 sec)= 30hp/tick
Skill 210 = (252hp/30 sec)= 50hp/tick

That means that for 40pp (cost to fill a few bags with pp) every single char has the equivalent of a fungi tunic. At skill 200 its like wearing 2 fungi tunics.

This would be moderately good for downing recovery time between fights, but you can use them in combat easily with a simple in game bind wound macro.

BW also doesn't break invis/hide/sneak.

It is one of the most OP pure melee abilities in the game without being hyperbolic. Folks literally twink out their toons with expensive low stat items, but don't even realize that for pennies that would be getting WAAAAY more utility/plat.

People just don't know is the only reason I can explain why they don't do it.

I wish I had read through this thread more closely before creating my own... don't I feel silly. For warriors, however, when does the pre-50 cap on Green go from 100 to 175 as per the wiki?

[Jimjam]

Bandages don’t cost platinum. They are free.

When you start to get encumbered with small change instead of destroying those weighty coins you turn them into bandages.

Its amazing.

[Loadsamoney]

Funny, Embalmers Knife can't be used by a Paladin, so that's automatically out. A Monk can't use it either, which is a pretty significant exclusion since Bind Wound is one of their most important skills. Hell, I might even want it for an Iksar Shaman just to feed Canni, and they can't use it either. Sheesh.

I guess the only three classes I would reasonably want one for then is Shadowknight, Warrior, and Rogue. I guess I can get one for my Ranger until then.

[DeathsSilkyMist]

Originally Posted by Loadsamoney [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Funny, Embalmers Knife can't be used by a Paladin, so that's automatically out. A Monk can't use it either, which is a pretty significant exclusion since Bind Wound is one of their most important skills. Hell, I might even want it for an Iksar Shaman just to feed Canni, and they can't use it either. Sheesh.

I guess the only three classes I would reasonably want one for then is Shadowknight, Warrior, and Rogue. I guess I can get one for my Ranger until then.

It is true monk's can't use https://wiki.project1999.com/Embalmers_Skinning_Knife , but they can sneak buy from most merchants in the game. This means even an Iksar Monk can buy bandages from most bandage merchants in the game.

[Jimjam]

I've taken a look at the wiki and regretfully report the listings for bandage type items is not extensive.

For example, Aloe Swatches are sold in the iksar newbie yards (iirc, will check) and yet are not listed. I suspect in turn many bandage vendors are also missing.

It seems, rather than trusting the wiki, a certain amount of in game knowledge is currently required to be able to get best usage out of bind wound in terms of keeping supplied.

[Kirdan]

Monks can eventually get https://wiki.project1999.com/Small_Manisi_Plant to summon their own.

I agree that BW is worth it for every single class.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Monks can eventually get https://wiki.project1999.com/Small_Manisi_Plant to summon their own.

I agree that BW is worth it for every single class.

So what do you recommend I do then, start using Bind Wound anytime I'm below 50% on my Paladin? The mob I'm camping has a tendency to bring me pretty low if I don't go ham with Expel Undead, and there's a vendor literally ten seconds away with Bandages at the ready.

[Kirdan]

For a paladin, you won't usually want to BW because either click healing or medding then casting heals will be better, but as some have mentioned there are situations that arise where it's dangerous to sit and/or cast spells because you'll get agro. Those are situations where BW really shines.

[Loadsamoney]

Originally Posted by Kirdan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For a paladin, you won't usually want to BW because either click healing or medding then casting heals will be better, but as some have mentioned there are situations that arise where it's dangerous to sit and/or cast spells because you'll get agro. Those are situations where BW really shines.

When is it going to be useful for a Bard that can just sit and play a lute with Hymn of Restoration?

[Danth]

I've been playing my Shadow Knight on P1999 since 2011. I level bind wound only through normal use. Even with as many years as I have on the character the skill is not at max--that's how infrequently I use it. I still carry some bandages for the rare occasions I use bind wound, but if I didn't I would not miss it overmuch. I don't think I leveled the skill at all on my Paladin.

Danth