Expansions or Reboot?

[Fawqueue]

Right now this question is going to get you shot for heresy. With the "we hate everything beyond velious" mantra from us classic guys it's like asknig if we should add nipples to the batsuit in the next movie..again. We've seen it turn out badly once before. However, I think when velious is getting tired and played out, the same Luclin/PoP witch hunters are probably going to give a little and you'll hear "Alright, lets do it..but lets make some changes so it's less like live and more like our vision of how it should have gone down". And maybe that's the right way to go. In this grand experiment that is Project 1999, maybe the next step in the evolution should be to see how the game could have been. Or maybe we'll get lazy and just say "Okay, but only to PoP and that's it!". There's a lot of fun plot twists in our future, that's for sure!

[mokfarg]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right now this question is going to get you shot for heresy. With the "we hate everything beyond velious" mantra from us classic guys it's like asknig if we should add nipples to the batsuit in the next movie..again. We've seen it turn out badly once before. However, I think when velious is getting tired and played out, the same Luclin/PoP witch hunters are probably going to give a little and you'll hear "Alright, lets do it..but lets make some changes so it's less like live and more like our vision of how it should have gone down". And maybe that's the right way to go. In this grand experiment that is Project 1999, maybe the next step in the evolution should be to see how the game could have been. Or maybe we'll get lazy and just say "Okay, but only to PoP and that's it!". There's a lot of fun plot twists in our future, that's for sure!

That is okay if they do decide to go that route but I will not be playing at that point. I disliked everything about SOL and PoP. I hated the awful lore, the teleporting books, PoK, going to the Moon, Cats, Beastlord, it was just awful awful awful. I would prefer it to come to a stop, no more changes. Sure some people will move on but others will join and others will make alts. I played a game called Rubies of Eventide for about 5 years with NO changes whatsoever .. many people did.

I game doesn't have to keep changing to stay alive. Actually when a game continues to grow (look at the big ball of crap EQ live is now) it discourages new people from joining. If it is static, more people will get to try out the great EQ trilogy, we need to not be thinking of just us. Just because we get to the end and finish everything doesn't mean everyone joining the server has. Let people grow tired and move on, let new people be the new top players. That was Rubies of Eventide and then the people that got bored and quit also keep coming back when they are ready for more.

[Makeda]

+ 1000 mokfarg ^^

[Dac321]

Originally Posted by Fawqueue [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Right now this question is going to get you shot for heresy. With the "we hate everything beyond velious" mantra from us classic guys it's like asknig if we should add nipples to the batsuit in the next movie..again. We've seen it turn out badly once before. However, I think when velious is getting tired and played out, the same Luclin/PoP witch hunters are probably going to give a little and you'll hear "Alright, lets do it..but lets make some changes so it's less like live and more like our vision of how it should have gone down". And maybe that's the right way to go. In this grand experiment that is Project 1999, maybe the next step in the evolution should be to see how the game could have been. Or maybe we'll get lazy and just say "Okay, but only to PoP and that's it!". There's a lot of fun plot twists in our future, that's for sure!

You are on to something... I myself love classic content. I did play all the way to Faydark or whatever.. As most of us have played content outside of classic we know EverQuest's strong points, and weaknesses..
After Velious I don't mind progessing. However, we the people, and the Devs need to determine what ruined the game post Velious. IMO it was the fact that SOE wanted to make the game softer. (Portals, Bazaar, etc) I noticed what keeps this game(classic) afloat is the community. What SOE did was apply these so called "benefits" to the game which ended up backfiring, the servers continued to lose population; so they had to continue adding patches and ideas to compinsate the lack of population, which in turn kept making the community worse. I'd like to express what I thought hurt EQ a few list of expansions.

Luclin
PROBLEM: Having a desigated area to sell merchandise which caused the community to decline because the patch allowed people to sell merchandise and not have to be communicating with the buyer. This made negociating difficult and caused prices to inflate. 2) Nexus portal, stole the thunder from the wizards

Pro: The AA concept was good IMO, it allowed each character to benefit their mains in different ways. (Improvement idea: Limit the amount of AAs you can earn so players need to think before spending, this will give each glass a variety, and a make players more unique. Also only allow Wizards to port to Luclin. This would give Wizards the upperhand and create a demand for them)

Planes of Power
PROBLEM: The expansion clearly known for the destruction of EverQuest. The idea of using a portal to locate to different areas of the world DESTROYS the community. This expansion caused wizards and druids to go out of business. They are great in a group however they were known for being the easiest ways of transportation. As SOE progressed with each expansion they made the game easier for soloing and less grouping.
(Improvement idea: Sure, have the different planes, however make them only available at certain levels, remove PoK... a grand central area may put a damper and remove the general population out of Norrath's classic grounds.)

These are just two expansions that listed the problems. Of course LDoN was released and, an instant will ruin any MMO. When LDoN is next on the expansion list, keep the content, just dont allow the zones to be instants.

Your thoughts and opinions?

[Malrubius]

Every other server out there, live and emu, goes beyond Velious. Anyone who wants to play beyond Velious has LOTS of options. No problem with that.

What is so wrong with ONE server (maybe someday even 2 or 3!) stopping at Velious, which the majority of players agree was the last GREAT expansion to Everquest?

My guess is that if this server ever DID jump the shark (which I am confident that it won't), then another server would crop up. Again it would have the goal of stopping at Velious. Would people then go join that server and lobby for it, too, to go beyond Velious?

Why isn't it OKAY for one classic server to exist?

[Rogean]

I'm actually of the opinion that Planes of Power was one of the best EQ Expansions. But regardless, this is a "Classic" server, with the intention of stopping at Velious. If you want to play Planes of Power, you can play PEQ.

[Trimm]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But regardless, this is a "Classic" server, with the intention of stopping at Velious.

This has been the server's intention since day 1. Why are people trying to change this? If you don't want to play Classic - Velious only, why did you make a character here?

[Dac321]

I agree that the server should remain classic. But, what in your guys' opinion constitutes as classic? There are many reasons. In my opinion it wasnt just the content alone that made classic, classic. It was the community. I have nothing wrong with progression. But, I do when it starts to interfere with the economy/community within the game.

[anthony210]

Luclin is a pretty old expansion. I could dub it classic as well. Classic is a point of view.

When I hear people talk about classic EQ I think about EQ before items got nuts like they are on live today with +3000 hp and mana etc.

[Aeolwind]

I've honestly pondered this question myself many, many times. I would definitely want to maintain a Velious cap server, but fixing some of Sony's screw ups like AA inflation, discriminatory content, & POK would be fun.