The easiest and simplest class to play?

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Hard to believe so many people are missing the point.

OP asked what is simply and easy for a mostly solo newbie.

How can anyone suggest rogue, which is unarguably the worst solo class in the game? You can't tank, you can't heal yourself, your only offensive ability (backstab) is almost unusable solo.

Wizard will only work for a few levels, then he will start to get beaten up by the mobs he's trying to root/nuke.

I don't think anyone suggested necro, by the way. Decent newbie class.

I did first post, like 2cnd post after I f5d the board and saw this pop up but u obviously have me on ignore, and again several times for that, u can get by with lifetaps and a pet...

Anyway - rogues can backstab solo, i get 8/10 backstabs, it takes a lot of skill, i lvld one to 45 solo on red with sbds and a rubi bp, lol. I did a lot of jousting snared mobs until intimidate landed once they started to hit hard enough to not want to strafestab.

intimidate makes sk an easy cakewalk, albiet slow, and with some decent downtime. Even with the bp. This is by no means 'simple though'

Some RTS players are rated in actions per minute, necros are up there in actions minute.. wizards and clerics and druids are viable with like... 10 actions per minute, given an appropriately low range light blue or green encounter.

There are a lot of ways to look at this.

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Mblake81 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Reeks of min/maxer ruining their own lands, they will not ruin mine.

I am assuming OP finds pressing buttons tedious or hard, so therefore wants way less buttons to press. As they specifically mentioned button questing being a strong consideration. I feel for anyone with this criteria because i have been so sick in my life in the past as to actually need something I could actively do to rehabilitate myself that required like pressing 1 button every 10 minutes.

your posts are real gud mblake stop deleting urself

the friction you cause maybe makes the world a lil better and allows other people to chip in you do it in a real mature way

[pivo]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

OP asked what is simply and easy for a mostly solo newbie.

...rouge, which is unarguably the worst solo class in the game? You can't tank, you can't heal yourself, your only offensive ability (backstab) is almost unusable solo.

Wizard will only work for a few levels, then he will start to get beaten up by the mobs...

I don't think anyone suggested necro, by the way. Decent newbie class.

First, let me thank you all for all the suggestions! I really appreciate it. As you suggest a class, I'm reading about it, trying to learn more.

Second, I need to apologize, I should be clearer with my initial question. Yes, simple and few buttons can mean different things.

I should first mentioned, that I'm very very very bad player in senior years. I was born not to be any kind of gamer, yet I like to play here and there, when I have time. My play style, I see the monster, I run away lol Well, not quite that bad, but you get the point. I get easy killed myself, easy killed others in the group, so I'm not good for groups and I avoid them. (I never learn how to proper play my class or particular game, so it is best to save everyone's frustration by me not grouping) Plus, many times I just may abruptly go offline for some reason, which is not good for group's spirit... The only ones not getting easy killed are khm, monsters lol

By not pressing too many buttons I meant, not need to worry to learn too many spells, how they work, what is their correlation, symbiosis and all that analytical stuff I'm not interested in and if there are too many I need to worry about, it kills the game for me. I tried EQ2 a little bit and there were so many spells that I couldn't dealt with it. Several hot bars! So which ones to keep? Study on some training dummy? Yeah right! (not that would help even if I would try) You need to have one spell rotation for this, another for that... nope, not me! Plus, yes, my fingers are not what they used to be...

I will definitely try several classes, but I have something to go with now. On one hand I like Monk, for its ability to pretend to be dead. That would simplify my game a lot. (less running away lol lol lol) I will not worry about mastering pulling skill too much. Who cares, I will just try to have fun, not planning to group much if at all. If I do, they will get clear msg: "I'm very bad, you want to get killed?" "What is pulling?", "No i don't do pulling" ...

Mage, I'm now less interested into it, now that I'm learning pet can get me killed easily by not properly micromanaging it. Yeah, I can see this scenario happens quite often. Probably way too often. Rouge, seems tough and complicated to this bad player. Proper positioning? Probably not my thing. At least not to start with.

Class that can easily port around, sounds very very interesting to me. I get lost very easy even with the maps in the game. And here are none. In dungeons I get constantly lost, even with maps. Means in this game I will NOT go into dungeons. No thank you, so I can only get out with someones else help... Since there are only online maps available, I can see I will be getting lost a LOT of the time. Easy porting looks more and more as very good idea for this poor player. Will definitely try the simplest, easiest, solo beginner friendly of the two that have easy porting skill. Maybe both of them if I can't figure out, which of the two would be best fit for me.

I can't wait trying game out. I spent almost whole day yesterday, two machines, 2 different Linux OS. Today I'm starting installing everything fresh again. Did some more reading. Will try different Linux distros if I need to. (no windows here, ever) I will get this somehow working. I think this game will be perfect for me. I will play it slow, who care if it takes me years to level, no rush, plenty info and help online...

Thank you all again for all the suggestions. When I asked my question, I though there is one simple easy answer that everyone knows the answer and why not just ask for it. The fact, that there are so many different opinions, (ignoring my poor initial question), just shows, how interesting this game is. It just makes me more wishing to start to play it [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

p.s.
You guys several times mentioned some kind of begging. Definitely need to read more about this. Not that i'm beggar by nature, quite opposite, not asking for freebies in the game ever. (was in the guild in EQ2, there were lots of mats for everyone to take and use, but I rather harvested mine myself) but I didn't know that this mechanic existed in this game, interesting...

[Muggens]

Halfling druid

[magnetaress]

Originally Posted by Muggens [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Halfling druid

seconded

especially if you like hanging out and casually helping other lower lvl players

[pivo]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

seconded

especially if you like hanging out and casually helping other lower lvl players

I do! (will be nice to hear "thanks!" for a change instead "grrr!" LOL LOl LOL
Looks like, now that I properly described my play stile and my 'virtues', answer is somehow easier to find [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Going to read now more about Druid and Halflings, thanks!

[Izmael]

Druid is perfect as a starter class, especially if you don't want to go to dungeons, where the druid loses some of its abilities. It's a primarily outdoor class really. Perfect to explore the game.

Monk if you don't want to deal with the whole spell casting system of EQ which isn't particularly straightforward.


As for Linux - I play P99 on Linux. Installation is very simple. I use Debian linux but it should work for other distros as well, especially Ubuntu since it's so close to Debian in many ways.

You'll simply need to
- install wine, any version 4 or higher should work without any tweaking. On Debian (and probably Ubuntu) you need to run "sudo apt install wine wine32" to install wine.
- run winecfg once, don't need to change anything. It will create some directories.
- Copy your P99 installation folder to /home/<username>/.wine/drive_c/Users/<username>/p99
- optional: Symlink the directory for easy access: ln -s /home/<username>/.wine/drive_c/Users/<username>/p99 /home/<username>/p99
- Create the following file with the text editor of your choice:

#!/bin/sh
cd ~/.wine/drive_c/Users/<username>/p99
wine ./eqgame.exe patchme

- make the file executable by running "chmod +x <filename>" on it
- run this file every time you want to run p99

No idea how used to Linux you are, so I gave a detailed walkthrough.

[pivo]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

- run winecfg once, don't need to change anything. It will create some directories.
wine ./eqgame.exe patchme

Thank you very much for Linux help! I will start with Druid HalfLing and some other time I may try Monk as second class.

About Linux, on one computer game crashes at login, will redo everything, probably too many different wine stuff installed (mono, gecko, staging, HQ... didn't know what I was doing i have better idea now, I only need official wine)

On another computer I got to log in OK and I did overwrite files with latest patch v53 as I should, but I'm getting error about spell files outdated. But I tried so many things that I must of messed something up, will redo everything, I'm glad it is not that hard.

One quick question. Can you run *.bat file under wine? If yes, would: "wine start something.bat" work? (so I can maybe later install/add some cosmetic stuff)

[loramin]

Originally Posted by pivo [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thank you very much for Linux help! I will start with Druid HalfLing and some other time I may try Monk as second class.

About Linux, on one computer game crashes at login, will redo everything, probably too many different wine stuff installed (mono, gecko, staging, HQ... didn't know what I was doing i have better idea now, I only need official wine)

On another computer I got to log in OK and I did overwrite files with latest patch v53 as I should, but I'm getting error about spell files outdated. But I tried so many things that I must of messed something up, will redo everything, I'm glad it is not that hard.

One quick question. Can you run *.bat file under wine? If yes, would: "wine start something.bat" work? (so I can maybe later install/add some cosmetic stuff)

First, in my experience, most/all "failure to run" issues on Linux boil down to your WINE version, or the version of your graphics card drivers. If something doesn't work, keep playing around with different versions of those, including both the proprietary and open source graphics drivers (different ones work better for different people). Also, you can try running winecfg, and changing the checkboxes on the interface tab about controlling windows and emulating a virtual desktop.

Second, when it says your spell files are outdated, that's because you haven't patched with the latest patch from P99 (there's always a link to the latest on the front page of the site).

Third, I don't know about batch files, but you don't need them or the Linux equivalent (a .sh file). You can just make a shortcut for "wine eqgame.exe patchme" ... or you can make the .sh file Izmael suggested.

And finally, while it's not Linux specific, https://wiki.project1999.com/Getting%20Started has a good overview of the whole process.

[pivo]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Second, when it says your spell files are outdated, that's because you haven't patched with the latest patch from P99 (there's always a link to the latest on the front page of the site).

Thanks! The thing is, I did overwrite with the latest unzipped patch: "Project 1999 Files (V53)", so old spells files error is rather puzzling.

Yes, I'm using that great guide from the link you posted. But like I said, reinstalling Linux and redoing everything may help this time. Getting ready now [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]