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[magnetaress]

Rogues also have to hit the mobs with their puny SBDs, gg.

[Uuruk]

Originally Posted by magnetaress [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Rogues also have to hit the mobs with their puny SBDs, gg.

Bitch this was never a classic eq discussion. We talking about kunark + where 10 rogues can make a 32k hp dragon disappear

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Ligma [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're entirely ignoring the resists of boss mobs. If you want to do those calculations you need to do them with lures and dragon/giant bane, which don't even exist on green.

No one is landing rend or ice comet on vox.

I've landed Ice Comet on Vox on live. But no, you would want to use Conflagration on Vox, fire based. 625 dmg, 8 casts a min, 5k dmg per min.
Rend doesn't land on shit, or I should say, on live it doesn't. This server, it's probably the best spell in the game.
Resists are less for wizards then any others, plus when you die your mana gets completely restored and your agro is wiped. So dying is actually preferred at times, as you can instantly med spells an start casting again if needed. Can't remember if classic had bind restrictions around its raid mobs.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Sacer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This, but also people forget rogues can evade, your dps is limited to how much aggro your tank have, while rogue can mostly do their max dps no matter what.

The best tanks in classic are paladins chain stunning while wizards nuke. Kunark warriors finally get weapons with proc that keep up if they max dex an haste. There some warrior weapons wizards can chain nuke an never get agro. It's all about equipment, an if your raiding, they better have the best equipment for MA. The best of course is the SoD out Velious. This is a classic example of MA gear directly affecting the outcome of a raid, which a large portion of the population still does not get, or see, ever.
Wizards are trash for the most part, I would say dont bother with one if you don't plan on getting a mana stone or mana robe and the epic weapon. Preferably all three, then that burst DPS becomes sustained DPS. Higher level your draught spells cast fast (3secs) enough you can alternate between mana robe casts (3secs) and damage draught spells an still get your naturally sitting med, just like shaman canny dancing.

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by NPC [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've landed Ice Comet on Vox on live. But you would want to use Conflagration on Vox, fire based. 625 dmg, 8 casts a min, 5k dmg per min.

I'm not sure dps calculations are done in damage per minute. With no fizzles Conflaguration is over 110 dps.

[NPC]

Originally Posted by Uuruk [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bitch this was never a classic eq discussion. We talking about kunark + where 10 rogues can make a 32k hp dragon disappear

So 10 rogues? Wizards get 1600dmg, casts 6 times a min, 7200 per min.
So 5 wizards can do more than that in 1 min.

Base spells 2k, casts 5 times a min, 10k per min
With these spells 3 wizards just about do that, 1 min.

When Vox is trying to cast complete heal, nothing beats a wizard group burn for the win.

[ldgo86]

A few years ago I watched my guilds wizards burn down Gore on blue in seconds. I was totally floored. Granted not a Velious dragon but it was damn cool.

[magnetaress]

So. My maths are neat. Thx <3

Wizards are the solution when every problem is a mob that has loot or exp.

[Izmael]

Kunark dragons = wizards rule
Velious dragons = rogues rule, wizards still ok

/thread


Truth is, a lot more people mained wizards back in 2000-2001. It was often simply their first character that they stuck with and leveled to 60. Switching to another class didn't look appealing to a lot of people because leveling was so painful and slow.

It was always a great thing to see a good wizard turnout for a Kunark raid. I'm sure that ANY raid/guild leader from back then will confirm. /who all guild wiz and seeing like 5x 60 wiz was a true feeling of satisfaction when deciding on a target.

On P99 though, with all the knowledge we have, people don't level many wizards to 60, because they know their life at 60 kinda sucks.

[baakss]

Originally Posted by Izmael [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kunark dragons = wizards rule
Velious dragons = rogues rule, wizards still ok

/thread

This is not quite accurate with the current Velious meta.

Wizards are *very* flavor of the month in Velious raiding on blue.

Supposedly there are guilds actively PL'ing wizard bots for this reason. Riot definitely tends to be very wizard heavy.