Which classes can solo AM / Frenzy? - Page 6

derpcake2 · #1 03-10-2020, 11:31 AM

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I need the camp broken up.

You can use social aggro to split the 3-spawn at frenzy.

You aggro a random mob, and bring it close to one of the outer spawns. The outer spawn will assist the random mob, but since the outer mob itself won't "call for help", the other 2 spawns won't assist.

Ideally you'd get the roamer low, recover while rooting, then do the split and finish the roamer so you can work on the PH.

You'd need clarity and good buffs, but it certainly isn't impossible.

This is also how fungi king gets singled with a full throne, without relying on pacify or FD.

This also works on live to split "linked" mobs, you just peel one of the linked mobs from its group through social aggro, then run it far enough away from the other linked mobs, which causes the mechanic to stop working.

DisbeAsos · #2 03-10-2020, 12:15 PM

Im really just talking about AM by the way, I didn't realize this thread was about Frenzy too. I cant speak with abilities to solo Frenzy as im focused on soloing AM at the moment myself and have spent some time there.

DMN · #3 03-10-2020, 02:29 PM

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Im really just talking about AM by the way, I didn't realize this thread was about Frenzy too. I cant speak with abilities to solo Frenzy as im focused on soloing AM at the moment myself and have spent some time there.

Not sure how you think you are going to solo either as a wizard at 50. They both have over 6khp. Every root break you are going to eat at leasy one maybe even 2 round of combat. There is always the chance you get a break just as you start nuking too, basically stunning yourself for the cast time. And then you have to worry about getting ghoul rooted every time they get some melee hits in.

moreover, even if you somehow managed to get 200 int + 300 mana on your gear, that's 6 ice comets. Even if we ignore the substantial cost of roots over this fight, about 10-15% of those nukes will be completely resisted, another 15%-20% or so will be partially resisted. You will generally only be doing about 80% of your theoretical damage. It's going to leave you 1000 hit points shy. And we haven't even considered the AM just nuking/stunning/rooting the shit out of you.

I'm reminded of mike tyson's famous quote "everyone has a plan until they get punched in the mouth”".

Erati · #4 03-10-2020, 02:32 PM

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Not sure how you think you are going to solo either as a wizard at 50. They both have over 6khp. Every root break you are going to eat at leasy one maybe even 2 round of combat. There is always the chance you get a break just as you start nuking too, basically stunning yourself for the cast time. And then you have to worry about getting ghoul rooted every time they get some melee hits in.

moreover, even if you somehow managed to get 200 int + 300 mana on your gear, that's 6 ice comets. Even if we ignore the substantial cost of roots over this fight, about 10-15% of those nukes will be completely resisted, another 15%-20% or so will be partially resisted. You will generally only be doing about 80% of your theoretical damage. It's going to leave you 1000 hit points shy. And we haven't even considered the AM just nuking/stunning/rooting the shit out of you.

Also if you dont instant engage he shields himself (+MR buff) and casts a Rune on himself (more hps to chew tru).

He solos my 49 earth pet while I nuke him for 800 a pop and still doesnt die before my pet dies.

Each time I have solod him on my mage Im basically one nuke from dying. Its always close.

Another tip, have levitate on so you dont eat a 200 damage grav flux.

DMN · #5 03-10-2020, 12:31 PM

Does bard even have a mem wipe on their mez? the wiki says no but that's unreliable. I ca't seem to push in the magic words in lucy to get bard songs to pop up, either. I recall in classic EQ that every mez ability had memory wipe.

In an event it doesn't really matter. You haven't proposed a way to actually kill it. And you can't just pretend tishan's clash cast time of 2.5 seconds is going to be slower than your 3 second cast time on mez.

Bigsham · #6 03-10-2020, 02:05 PM

a bard will never solo either at 50

killing frenzy at 50 when the camp is broken is no accomplishment for a mage or ench because they can just charm burn it

a wizard wont have enough mana

i wont hold my breath waiting for your video

DisbeAsos · #7 03-10-2020, 02:17 PM

I can drop 8 Ice Comets and with Manastone and Rune I can drop a 9th while being at 80% health, but ok all knowing Bigsham….

Ive upped my mana pool by 220ish mana and my AC and HP by a good bit since I tried him solo and got him to 15-20%, im fairly confident my next solo attempt when I can get in on the camp broken up will be successful.

Erati · #8 03-10-2020, 02:25 PM

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I can drop 8 Ice Comets and with Manastone and Rune I can drop a 9th while being at 80% health, but ok all knowing Bigsham….

Ive upped my mana pool by 220ish mana and my AC and HP by a good bit since I tried him solo and got him to 15-20%, im fairly confident my next solo attempt when I can get in on the camp broken up will be successful.

Wizard can snipe an AM thats sitting there but soloing /holding this down plus farming the AM for multiple kills to get a robe is NOT in the cards for a lvl 50 classic wizard.

Maybe if druids came by to buff / regen each cycle it could be done but thats not solo farming...[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

DMN · #9 03-10-2020, 02:32 PM

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I can drop 8 Ice Comets and with Manastone and Rune I can drop a 9th while being at 80% health, but ok all knowing Bigsham….

Ive upped my mana pool by 220ish mana and my AC and HP by a good bit since I tried him solo and got him to 15-20%, im fairly confident my next solo attempt when I can get in on the camp broken up will be successful.

8 ice comets? what? specialization doesn't even work yet. did it get stealth implemented or something?

Edit: Even with it I don't see how you get more than 7 ice comets. you can't use that manastone much as you are going to be eating a lot of damage.

DisbeAsos · #10 03-10-2020, 02:29 PM

Yea my scenario is self buffed only with no potions, with raid buffs I could likely break the camp and hold it myself. I always like to do things on the edge of what I shouldn't be able to. I am trying to get a 10 dose wort pot for my next attempt but likely wont have it as im broke currently...