Insanity :10 hours per manastone, there's like 12 people on the list now

[Solist]

Originally Posted by skipdog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Oh my, people crying about a long manastone camp already?

Oh boy. lol

You realise you can't go AFK in these camps, at all right?

More than a few mins risks a kick from the list and your rights to loot. Its all hard coded.

So for 50 hours you sit and click a random window on a random timer that pops on your screen, sometimes entering a code thats randomly generated... Your time away amounts to a short shit, prefrab/processed shit food or delivery, lack of any exercise or time away from PC, strain of any RL relaitonships (wife/gf/dog/kids) etc.

It is single handedly the most hardcore feature ever put on p1999. To qualify that statement I have previously:
Done no CSR VP and corpse camped people down multiple levels.
Tracked 5 day window dragons for 50+hrs at a time.
Done the loreseeker camp duo and trio for days at a time.
etc etc.

This is the singularly most draining activity ever forced upon the playerbase, if they're to contest with people who are sharing accounts. And if they're sharing accounts they have an extraordinary advantage. If I can go 50 hours straight doing this (and I can), they can do closer to 100hrs straight with a bit of sleep planning and it's minimal investment by the 2nd person. Even 6 or 8hours sleep extends your ability to poopsock a huge amount.

[fadetree]

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My God, why. Are Manastones *that* useful? I've had a couple on various chars, druid and cleric notably. I didn't notice they were that overpowering...handy, of course, but not life changing. Same for guises - which as far as I can tell are completely useless apart from some faction stuff. Manastones are at least useful.

I know they stop dropping. Who cares?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by fadetree [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

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My God, why. Are Manastones *that* useful? I've had a couple on various chars, druid and cleric notably. I didn't notice they were that overpowering...handy, of course, but not life changing. Same for guises - which as far as I can tell are completely useless apart from some faction stuff. Manastones are at least useful.

I know they stop dropping. Who cares?

This is like arguing over how you don't understand why other people like the taste of some random food, but you don't. You know that's asinine. Why would you try to argue about whether manastone camp is worth it or not?

Manastone is definitely "*that* useful" for clerics. Everyone else it's just convenient (like a sham who wants to canni down and afk but without spending the minute to do it instead of 8 seconds of stoning) or niche (like druids with clicky heal robe after kunark rolls around, or epic wizards, or chanters wanting to eat a berserker spirit that's going to expire).

Guises give large races a shrink without needing shrink/shrink pots. Plus ultravision. Those are not a trivial things. But yeah it's generally vanity and fashion quest I think.

[Domo]

I guess GMs wont respond to this topic right?

[Baler]

Did someone say get a manastone in 10 hours?

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[AegnorP99]

So if it's 10 hours per manastone, we can assume 2 per day.

6 months x 30 days x 2 per day x 2 servers = 720. Just say 700 to account for the week and a half it took to get to farm status.

700 manastones with a peak population of 2300... It shouldn't really be that rare an item and it's really only useful in a few niche cases. Do we expect the insanity with the /list system to continue til Kunark? Or will the most hardcore people continue to wait in line for manastones after manastone?

[Arvan]

Originally Posted by AegnorP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if it's 10 hours per manastone, we can assume 2 per day.

6 months x 30 days x 2 per day x 2 servers = 720. Just say 700 to account for the week and a half it took to get to farm status.

700 manastones with a peak population of 2300... It shouldn't really be that rare an item and it's really only useful in a few niche cases. Do we expect the insanity with the /list system to continue til Kunark? Or will the most hardcore people continue to wait in line for manastones after manastone?

Guise/manastone stops dropping in like 6 months

[turbosilk]

Originally Posted by AegnorP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if it's 10 hours per manastone, we can assume 2 per day.

6 months x 30 days x 2 per day x 2 servers = 720. Just say 700 to account for the week and a half it took to get to farm status.

700 manastones with a peak population of 2300... It shouldn't really be that rare an item and it's really only useful in a few niche cases. Do we expect the insanity with the /list system to continue til Kunark? Or will the most hardcore people continue to wait in line for manastones after manastone?

My experience with camping the EE and talking to all of the other people camping is once they got the manastone they went to continue playing the game. Too much goodness and adventure out there to stick with one camp.

[Solist]

Originally Posted by AegnorP99 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So if it's 10 hours per manastone, we can assume 2 per day.

6 months x 30 days x 2 per day x 2 servers = 720. Just say 700 to account for the week and a half it took to get to farm status.

700 manastones with a peak population of 2300... It shouldn't really be that rare an item and it's really only useful in a few niche cases. Do we expect the insanity with the /list system to continue til Kunark? Or will the most hardcore people continue to wait in line for manastones after manastone?

Don't quote me too hard on the 10hr math, was a random figure for ease of math. Seems to be a 1 in 15 drop so far, on a 28min repop and maybe 50 or 60% spawn rate. Work it out.

[AegnorP99]

Originally Posted by Solist [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't quote me too hard on the 10hr math, was a random figure for ease of math. Seems to be a 1 in 15 drop so far, on a 28min repop and maybe 50 or 60% spawn rate. Work it out.

1/2 spawn chance x 1/15 drop x 2 spawns per hour = 1 manastones per 15 hours. Yay math. That's a bit worse so drop the 700 I calculated earlier to maybe 450-500.