Name and Shame - Normal (Bard)

[Wwen42]

Dood, how hard is it to "play nice" whatever that means. "Nice" in this case means reporting someone for doing something the mechanics allows. Not nice is being that bard, fuck that guy with a spoon.

[Khorza]

Okay, so the Play Nice Policy on the forum differs from the one on the Wiki. So much for a clear set of rules. No wonder people are confused.

I found one reference to this topic on the forum-version of the PNP:

4. You may not Ninja Loot.
Ninja looting defined is when a player, disregarding the players or player who killed a mob, loots an item that is generally regarded as significant or valuable from the mob they did not kill. This is strictly prohibited and will result in removal of the item(s) and any appropriate disciplinary action.

Not very clear and still invites plenty of interpretation. This is also suggests that people were mostly right in this thread, so I'm still confused about what the misinformation is.

This rule does not draw a distinction between mobs that were killed within your group and outside of your group. There's so much that's not clear here. Again, it's not the players' faults that this is confusing.

Because logically players should be allowed to loot corpses once they've passed the public timer. That's the way this has always worked in EverQuest. If P99 has decided to diverge down a different path, then that specifically should be mentioned in the ruleset. The above-mentioned section could easily only refer to mobs killed when several people share the kill credit. That is generally where the term "ninja looting" is used in EverQuest.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Khorza [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Okay, so the Play Nice Policy on the forum differs from the one on the Wiki. So much for a clear set of rules. No wonder people are confused

The staff does not maintain the wiki. The rules you need to know are posted on this site. Originally, I was going to paste the rule here but I would rather encourage new players like yourself to read the rules so there is no confusion.

[Danger]

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The staff does not maintain the wiki. The rules you need to know are posted on this site. Originally, I was going to paste the rule here but I would rather encourage new players like yourself to read the rules so there is no confusion.

here is the rule as posted on the forums

"Ninja looting defined is when a player, disregarding the players or player who killed a mob, loots an item that is generally regarded as significant or valuable from the mob they did not kill. This is strictly prohibited and will result in removal of the item(s) and any appropriate disciplinary action."

Does it apply if the corpse is rotted to the point of being unlocked?

Does that apply to bat wing? gnoll fangs? fine steel weapons? What is considered significant or valuable?

If I'm the rogue in a naggy raid and kill naggy and jack the CoF is it not ninja looting bc I killed the mob?

What if I regard the player who killed the gnoll? "Hey thx for the fang"

Some clarity would be appreciated.

P.S. all of this is dumb.

[Llandris]

Originally Posted by Danger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Does it apply if the corpse is rotted to the point of being unlocked?

"Unlocked" does not mean the item or items are FFA.

Does that apply to bat wing? gnoll fangs? fine steel weapons? What is considered significant or valuable?

That depends. A FS weapon can be significant to a new player. Nobody is getting suspended over a bat wing.

If I'm the rogue in a naggy raid and kill naggy and jack the CoF is it not ninja looting bc I killed the mob?

Were you given permission by the GL or RL? If the answer is no, then it's still considered ninja looting.

What if I regard the player who killed the gnoll? "Hey thx for the fang"

lol

Some clarity would be appreciated.

P.S. all of this is dumb.

You also don't have to play here if you don't like the rules. It's your choice <3

[Magikarp]

Why isn't this moved to rnf? Isn't publicly shaming someone the definition of a flame? Can we get a janitor to the green section in general please?

From the looks of it, it's some rando who came back to eq for green and didn't realize how severely serious business every little thing in p99 had become

Originally Posted by Llandris [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You also don't have to play here if you don't like the rules. It's your choice <3

Cool nice attitude. And when they leave, the rest of us who stay will get to openly discuss what staff or player action drove them away. I hope

[Wwen42]

Agreed, he should have said, "yo man those are kinda valuable, there's a PNP, please don't loot ours, ok?" The bard guy was polite. Manners greases a lot of gears all around.

[Frug]

Is it possible to "loot", but not take any items, thereby just holding the mob past its FFA timer in a state that no one else can actually loot it? Then when designated looter gets back, active looter just "Done"s, and designated looter can actually grab the thing.

[Jibartik]

Originally Posted by Frug [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is it possible to "loot", but not take any items, thereby just holding the mob past its FFA timer in a state that no one else can actually loot it? Then when designated looter gets back, active looter just "Done"s, and designated looter can actually grab the thing.

Lulz right now:

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[Legidias]

So much loot entitlement in this thread, even after GM input