Any good guides for GINA?

[DMN]

My guide:

1. Burn it with fire
2. Piss on the ashes

[bum3]

Life was better before DPS parsers. People just played to have fun. DPS parsers allowed min/maxing to ruin some of casuals fun. In WoW... when a deathknight could out tank, out heal, and out dps the group... 90% of groups where deathknights. Not fun. Same for EQ2... dirges top parsers... to the point of neglecting what they were intended to be.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Life was better before DPS parsers. People just played to have fun.

People still play to have fun. But not everyone has fun in the same way.

Some people don't have fun unless they get to force their idea of fun on everyone else.

Claiming that log parsers ruin the fun of casuals is... good lord. Lol.


On a related note, I don't even use gina.

[bum3]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People still play to have fun. But not everyone has fun in the same way.

Some people don't have fun unless they get to force their idea of fun on everyone else.

Claiming that log parsers ruin the fun of casuals is... good lord. Lol.


On a related note, I don't even use gina.

Why is it good lord? When people start discriminating against classes for performing less or pushing people out because they are at 998 dps instead of a new 1000 dps minimum limit for raiding, does that not hinder fun?

I understand your fun comment. But that usually why play nice policies exist.

[Tethler]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Claiming that log parsers ruin the fun of casuals is... good lord. Lol.

I haven't seen it at all on p99, but I very clearly remember in WoW when parsers became super common in early BC, people would often get flamed in dungeon groups and/or kicked if their DPS wasn't up to par.

[bum3]

Isn't a fairly easy fix is to require full screen mode?

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Isn't a fairly easy fix is to require full screen mode?

Not classic.


Also, audio triggers, second monitors, virtual machines, etc.

[bum3]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Not classic.


Also, audio triggers, second monitors, virtual machines, etc.

Yeah I was lucky to have a 19inch CRT. Won it in a Air Warrior tournament. Most people still had 13inch. Imagine having multiple CRTs on a desk? Be lucky if 2 fit.

[Tecmos Deception]

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah I was lucky to have a 19inch CRT. Won it in a Air Warrior tournament. Most people still had 13inch. Imagine having multiple CRTs on a desk? Be lucky if 2 fit.

I was talking about current day, how going through effort to stop overlays wouldn't stop use of a program like Gina.

Originally Posted by bum3 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Why is it good lord? When people start discriminating against classes for performing less or pushing people out because they are at 998 dps instead of a new 1000 dps minimum limit for raiding, does that not hinder fun?

I understand your fun comment. But that usually why play nice policies exist.

I can't reply to this without getting political.

[Mblake81]

Originally Posted by Tecmos Deception [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I was talking about current day, how going through effort to stop overlays wouldn't stop use of a program like Gina.




I can't reply to this without getting political.

Its not a real request to stop it, Tecmos. No use trying to figure out how to. This is a thought exercise in how introducing things like this can split a community that wouldn't be without it.

Some trolls here on the forums got me to thinking about how many advantages players have now compared to back then. Some of the trolls want to troll harder and suggest needing the CRT monitors (the really good ones are still nice) and using 56K dialup. Some things are not practical.

People have argued that because RogerWilco released in 1999 that voice chat should be allowed. Some have argued that even though it was out that it really wasn't all that usable. This is a thought exercise. People like crutches.

People have argued because some parsers that could check DPS (I never heard of one check loot logs etc.. i wonder if original developers ever commented on that) that later programs like GINA that display an overlay in real time are ok. Here we are saying its lame. Thought exercise.

Does it bother me in my game? Nope.
But I am aware other people are out there playing the same game with additional *useless* information. We are not playing the same game. Maybe you are getting a heads up about something whereas I am keeping a mental track of it subject to human failure.