Sullon/Training Rules

[wehrmacht]

People don't quit because of no rules, they quit due to the 40 hour long CR's associated with them. Even if you only wiped in some simple zone like lower guk, when it's filled with enemy players, that could be a whopping 4+ hour cr just for that.

If you want to improve player retention, the only thing that needs to be addressed is CR. Put in sullon zek rule set and give priest of discord in towns the ability to summon corpses after they've been dead for X amount of hours. It's pretty damn simple!

[Pudge]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

People don't quit because of no rules, they quit due to the 40 hour long CR's associated with them. Even if you only wiped in some simple zone like lower guk, when it's filled with enemy players, that could be a whopping 4+ hour cr just for that.

If you want to improve player retention, the only thing that needs to be addressed is CR. Put in sullon zek rule set and give priest of discord in towns the ability to summon corpses after they've been dead for X amount of hours. It's pretty damn simple!

corpse retrieval was really a big part of the EQ experience.. it's a part fo the penalty for dying. I actually liked trying to sneak into places and retrieve my corpse from corpse campers. but i do understand how it can be frustrating to ppl.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Pudge [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

corpse retrieval was really a big part of the EQ experience.. it's a part fo the penalty for dying. I actually liked trying to sneak into places and retrieve my corpse from corpse campers. but i do understand how it can be frustrating to ppl.

I don't think it would lessen the penalty of death that much if you let the priest of discord summon a corpse after it had been dead for 12 or 24 hours or whatever. Anytime you train a group to death at the bottom of sebillis, you'd basically be forcing them off the server for an entire day.

It just makes it so people can log off and sleep after being trained to death and actually go to their job the next day instead of staying up all night in some crazy naked CR battle till 5am.

Eventually they quit the server because that kind of play style isn't compatible for people with jobs. If you want training to be legal and want a server population above 50, it's just something you gotta do.

[naez]

Originally Posted by wehrmacht [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Eventually they quit the server because that kind of play style isn't compatible for people with jobs.

I concur we must accommodate for the peasants

[Massive Marc]

No rules would seem the right way to go.

Lets be real for a second. The game has been out for over a decade. People coming to play on the P99red aren't going to be new comers to the game. Most people ( I would assume) coming to play P99red are going to know wtf is up. Training/corpse camping/bind camping should all be part of the PVP experience. Using server population as a argument against no rule set is dumb, seeing as most people coming onto the server "should/would" already know what the deal is.

It also gives GM's more time to focus on hackers/exploits, which is more important to server population then trains/corpse camp/bind camp.( all in my opinion are valid tactics)

(fucking half a sleep, hope that makes sense)

[naez]

I guarantee if training is allowed it will get QQ'd away faster than item loot does everytime we try that

[Chanur]

The problem with the box wasn't rules, it was the rampant hacking and the fact the posted rules didn't apply to certain people and groups.

That said considering the silly shit you can be banned for here the less GMs have to be involved the better.

[georgie]

just RZ this shit and everyones happy

[Titanuk]

sz rules fine with me

[Macken]

SZ rules, complete with leaderboard minus trains = $