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Old 10-12-2019, 11:50 AM
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Secrets has taken the spdat.eff from the 1999 retail discs and
neither Clarity nor Insight are in it.

It's beyond dispute now.
How is this beyond dispute? Do you know for a fact there wasn't a patch on day 0?

IMO using the original retail discs as a starting point is a ridiculous idea
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Old 10-12-2019, 11:57 AM
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How is this beyond dispute? Do you know for a fact there wasn't a patch on day 0?

IMO using the original retail discs as a starting point is a ridiculous idea
No amount of evidence can prove a negative.

Ad we don't just have the earliest spdat, we have a dev actually mentioning it was added post release.
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Old 10-12-2019, 12:17 PM
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How is this beyond dispute? Do you know for a fact there wasn't a patch on day 0?

IMO using the original retail discs as a starting point is a ridiculous idea
That's the thing and the reason I even brought it up - there most certainly is usually a patch on day 0 for anything online. Also does anyone remember how often patches happened back then?
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Old 10-12-2019, 12:22 PM
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That's the thing and the reason I even brought it up - there most certainly is usually a patch on day 0 for anything online. Also does anyone remember how often patches happened back then?
I do and it was almost daily and completely random. They almost never gave an explanation as to why they did so either. Patches of patches were not uncommon at all. Like I said in a previous post on another thread, if you really want the original launch experience, we need chat rooms on the log in screen, GM manning them for world kicks and 2-8 hr downtime's with no explanation.
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:33 AM
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Every quote listed in this thread is being taken out of context, they're all vaguely referencing hitting level 29 and how nice it is to finally have clarity. Doesn't sound like it was patched in based on those messages.

Stay woke, this is them trying to reduce number of Enchanters on launch with scare tactics and lies.
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Old 10-12-2019, 06:40 AM
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So.... is chanter Clarity going to be on Green from day 1 or?...
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:34 AM
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They had Clarity day 1, so it stands to reason they will again.
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Old 10-12-2019, 07:41 AM
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They had Clarity day 1, so it stands to reason they will again.
What contemporary sources do you have which suggest it was in on day 1.


Admittedly I thought it was sooner added to the game than late may, but my memory is a bit skewed sometimes because I played on the test server as well as production servers.

so, again, if you have contemporary information it was in at release or earlier than late may, do supply it.
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Old 10-12-2019, 08:50 AM
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Think about how much more balanced the classes would be if they gave Wizards Clarity and Breeze and not enchanters.

Fatal mistake
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Old 10-12-2019, 09:18 AM
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Think about how much more balanced the classes would be if they gave Wizards Clarity and Breeze and not enchanters.

Fatal mistake
Should of gave wizards the shield of lava line too, and the mages O'kiels radiation.

That makes a bit more sense then clarity for wiz
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