You guys just couldn’t grow up and play nice, could you?

[ajohnymous]

Originally Posted by jpetrick [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's just AG. Core, AM and Paradigm Shift have yet to have a problem.

Are you talking about Vulak specifically or raid targets in general? If we're talking Vulak specifically, then as far as I'm aware, AG is the only guild to concede it once when twice is standard. If you're talking about targets in general, every guild has conceded mobs more or less than what they should have.

Or maybe going back and forth over ToV targets like this is detrimental to the health of the raid scene idk.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Braknar wanted rotations. Give credit where credit is due (for good or ill): Rogean made this change.

This is a direct result of braknar leaving. Use your noodle.

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Also, just adding that I liked braknars previous push for rotations but I like this even more.

[Wonkie]

Fungis are 60k again? why

[Cecily]

Free market?

[Kayso2]

When Core got Tunare today, we were literally making jokes in Discord to the effect of "Lol, that's three losses in a row. Time for AM leadership to decide the current agreement is broken".

Even if the ToV changes code was developed months ago, it's clear that this "solution" was 100% a knee-jerk reaction by box owners who probably haven't paid enough attention to the raid scene lately to make an informed decision. Normally those types of decisions are bad, but now we have a more effective metric: Is Aftermath leadership supportive? If not, its probably good for the server and everyone else.

As a casual scrub, I'm looking forward to see how the meta plays out in terms of the time value of loot in ToV.

[Convict]

good to see AM in here trying to prop up their main competition as the bad guys... no problems with the other guilds ever lol

you guys are sick

[ZiggyTheMuss]

Originally Posted by Kayso2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Is Aftermath leadership supportive? If not, its probably good for the server and everyone else.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by ajohnymous [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Shit, man, it goes both ways. AM hasn't conceded the standard 2 before, too. Point I'm making is the most active guilds can't work together well enough to figure it out amongst ourselves and I wish we could.

You are crazy.

[Vianna]

Originally Posted by ZiggyTheMuss [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don’t let the door hit you in the ass! Now people can actually play ToV like it was meant to be played. Thank you Braknar!!!

You guys are in for a rude awakening.