Why Liberalism is a mental disease

[Potus]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

graduating it? like raising it? was this school you speak of chemistry glassware?

graduated from it... sorry, this just really bothers me, almost as much as when people say cavalry "calvary"

I wouldn't have called you out except you have been snooty in this thread and were bashing someone's reading comprehension on an internet forum, and thus open yourself up.

Done with this thread, I have both graduated it and graduated from it!

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=graduate

You failed. Again.

[Rilkean]

Physicists are neckbeard elitist losers and science-rejects FYI. All other science branches hate you guys because you are the ones stuck in your shitty ivory domes of asperger tininess.

[Potus]

I'm going to go make a Rube Goldberg machine that will kick Toehammer in the balls the next time he posts.

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Scientists are part of the liberal ivory tower. And Gilbert Lewis coined the term Photon.

Out as well. *points*

I promised I was done with this thread, but now I am not. I DON'T CARE who coined a fucking term. You obviously study a social or soft science, because you have zero argument/logic skills. Or else you are just inept.

Gilbert Lewis, great man, I love the Lewis dot structure; it's great for a physicist to understand chemical bonding on paper. But seriously, thanks for going to wikipedia as the shaky base of your logic-fail pyramid. Maxwell didn't call his equations "Maxwell's Equations", so does that mean that someone else gets street cred for naming them?

Sure scientists are part of the liberal ivory tower, what is your point? That doesn't mean that they all buy into the bullshit. Nor am I naive to believe all poly sci types are liberals. I am still searching for something of your comment that could resemble a central argument.

How does your foot taste?

You sound like a pansy that flexes your e-muscle by saying, "Out as well. *points*". You lack cajones, too much philosophizing... just remember Be a philosopher; but, amidst all your philosophy, be still a man. - Hume

Potus auctions, "WTB philosophy weiner"

[Potus]

No one would have called something a photon before the term was coined, the same way no one would have called Thomas Paine a socialist before the term was coined.

Rube Goldberg ----> your scrotum

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

http://wordnetweb.princeton.edu/perl/webwn?s=graduate

You failed. Again.

OMG you stuck your foot so far up your throat now it is funny. How does mid-shin taste? NOTHING in that link shows any sort of grammar fail on my part; it shows that you fail incontrovertibly. Moron. You said in your post "try graduating it"... let's replace your ambiguous use of "it" with the real direct object "school" so now the predicate phrase now reads "try graduating school". Your link has 3 examples:
1) "She graduated in 1990"
2) "This school graduates 2,000 students each year"
3) "graduate a cylinder"

Your sentence would have been correct with a prepositional phrase; "try graduating from it" would have made sense. The fact that example/definition 2 says "school graduates 2,000 students" works because the noun school is graduating, ie performing graduation ceremonies, students from its halls. However to say someone should graduate school makes no sense. You are missing a KEY prepositional phrase. Let me simplify for you with an accurate analogy: you would say, "I learned college" instead of the correct "I learned from college" whereas one can accurately say "College learned me", similar to example 2, but not "College learned from me". Prepositions matched with direct objects are very tricky, and I understand why you made the mistake. I am not condemning you, I just get annoyed when you cast the first grammar stone, and then when I shatter your house of fail, you try to come back and fail harder. People who live in glass houses should not throw rocks. I think in the interest of saving me time, and you face, that we stop this here.

Originally Posted by Rilkean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Physicists are neckbeard elitist losers and science-rejects FYI. All other science branches hate you guys because you are the ones stuck in your shitty ivory domes of asperger tininess.

I agree, physicists are elitists to a certain extent. I myself hate the ivory tower physicist, and have had to deal with him/her (actually, rarely are women physicists annoying or super-elitist). I try to keep myself in check not to become one. However, all science branches do not hate us. Physicists are generally sought out for collaboration to help solve complex problems from experimental inception to completion. If other scientists hate us because they had problems with vectors and basic Physics I? Haters gonna hate! Oh well! I think people hate their physics teachers because a lot of physics teachers wholeheartedly believe in sink or swim in introductory physics, which a lot of whiny bitches cannot handle. I myself have seen both sides of the issue, and I think a coddling demeanor should be adopted for some people and not for others. This is why I have always liked schools calculus-based and non-calculus based physics approach.

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[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Potus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No one would have called something a photon before the term was coined, the same way no one would have called Thomas Paine a socialist before the term was coined.

Rube Goldberg ----> your scrotum

Once again, who the fuck cares? They were called corpuscules by Newton. Just because Lewis used Latin to name something (good choice Lewis!) doesn't really have any significance. I was giving both you and Weier(whateverthecraphisnameis) grief because you guys were applying modern-day political science terms for historical political factions that are both distorted by history and your interpretation of what they mean because you grew up in modern times. Seriously, a photon is a photon, although it is more mysteriously beautiful than maybe anything in science, it is known well what someone means when they say photon. However socialist, liberal, republican... this shit changes with time.

You can see I am swearing slightly more as this thread progresses. It is because if you really are in academia (which I get the impression you are) I am sad. It seems you have a poor, narrow education. If you were trained in logic, your grammar would be better. If you were trained in science, you would understand it more. I swear more often because I get more and more depressed about the lack of thought, logic, and science training's value in our modern society. I like to swear at you, because if you are a teacher, you will probably fail a bright student who owns you in class as I have here. If he be a physicist/mathematician/logician, I hope I have not added to your and Rilkean's hatred for us... please be gentle on him.

[Foxx]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. If other scientists hate us because they had problems with vectors and basic Physics I? Haters gonna hate! Oh well! I think people hate their physics teachers because a lot of physics teachers wholeheartedly believe in sink or swim in introductory physics, which a lot of whiny bitches cannot handle. I myself have seen both sides of the issue, and I think a coddling demeanor should be adopted for some people and not for others. This is why I have always liked schools calculus-based and non-calculus based physics approach.

honestly I have never come across a physics professor who is worth his/her salt. Don't get me wrong, I am sure they are brilliant, but have absolutely zero business teaching anybody. I did well in the classes, but they are horrible. This goes for the entire physics department at my school. They are also deffinetly elitist. I had a friend of mine majoring in Physics, and when she went to the department head about trying to dual major in Physics and Mechanical Engineering, they gave her a ton of grief over it and wouldn't let her. After continuing to try and get permission to do this (from above there head, I guess) they dropped her from the program and she just switched to engineering.

I have never had a good experience with a physics department any school I have attended, or heard a good experience from other students at other schools.

All that, I am not taking anything away from there brilliance, like I said before I know they are all very well educated and intelligent people. Nearly all of them have a doctorate in physics, or a similar field, but they all have a huge ego, and several other things I dont like about them, but I guess I shouldn't generalize.

On a side note, most professors I have come across who teach engineering are great people, and the people I have gotten the opportunity to work with in the engineering field are great, and exactly the opposite experience I had with the physics folk.

[wehrmacht]

Originally Posted by Toehammer [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I promised I was done with this thread, but now I am not. I DON'T CARE who coined a fucking term. You obviously study a social or soft science, because you have zero argument/logic skills. Or else you are just inept.

That's the exact same thing all my posts said to Potus as well. He's unable to address anything in the original post because it appears his entire life is invested in that ideology. He starts to read it and notices the subconscious reason for all of his actions are derived from feelings of inferiority. He has no rational argument against that so tries to drag you into a semantics debate. If that fails, he then tries to drag you into a morality debate to try and claim he is the moral high ground and "you are evil".

Same way with this Rilkean "girl/man/creature". Look what she sent to me earlier:

Originally Posted by Rilkean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

How many good looking women have been president of the USA? How many senators are good looking women? How many heads of state are good looking women? How many bankers are good looking women? My god. The number 0 keeps coming up.

She see's the nonsense on TV saying everyone on earth is identical and equal, notices women hold less positions of power in society, assumes men are in those positions not because they were qualified for them, but it just has to be some other reason because otherwise she wouldn't be equal.

So now she has an inferiority complex and tries to solve it by attempting to remove those people from their positions regardless of whether they were the most fit for them or not.

This is how all liberal ideology works, it's the beta males, minorities, women, gays, basically everyone with an inferiority complex banding together against the people most fit to hold that spot. You don't have to be inferior if you can just kill the person doing better than you!

The same type of people notice women make up only 11% of engineers. Even though there's nothing from preventing women from choosing that field in college, it couldn't possibly be their sex just has no interest in that field compared to men, otherwise they wouldn't be equal. They have to solve that inferiority complex somehow.

This is where it really gets interesting. Practically everything about psychology is already known. You can easily predict how these angry, little, inferiority complex people will react to any given variable presented to them. Bankers will move in and try to sell full blown socialism and communism as a solution to these people's problems and they love it. Not because it's good, just because it erases the people that give them their inferiority complex. Why would the bankers want this? To centralize all the wealth and power, then they can easily steal everything.

Isn't it awesome how people's pathetic psychological problems are used to destroy them while at the same time thinking they are getting something great?

[Toehammer]

Originally Posted by Foxx [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

honestly I have never come across a physics professor who is worth his/her salt. Don't get me wrong, I am sure they are brilliant, but have absolutely zero business teaching anybody. I did well in the classes, but they are horrible. This goes for the entire physics department at my school. They are also deffinetly elitist. I had a friend of mine majoring in Physics, and when she went to the department head about trying to dual major in Physics and Mechanical Engineering, they gave her a ton of grief over it and wouldn't let her. After continuing to try and get permission to do this (from above there head, I guess) they dropped her from the program and she just switched to engineering.

I have never had a good experience with a physics department any school I have attended, or heard a good experience from other students at other schools.

All that, I am not taking anything away from there brilliance, like I said before I know they are all very well educated and intelligent people. Nearly all of them have a doctorate in physics, or a similar field, but they all have a huge ego, and several other things I dont like about them, but I guess I shouldn't generalize.

On a side note, most professors I have come across who teach engineering are great people, and the people I have gotten the opportunity to work with in the engineering field are great, and exactly the opposite experience I had with the physics folk.

Great post! I agree, growing up in the physics environment can be extremely disheartening. My PhD adviser was brutally egostistical, and he told me about 6 months into research that "I am the master, you are the slave, I don't like it, but it must be that way". It is one thing that it is universally implied, but explicitly saying it indicates another level of arrogance/elitism. In fact, right after I defended my thesis, he said, "now you can call me by my first name". So trust me, I know EXACTLY what you mean in terms of a shitty physics culture.

I am sad you haven't found a great physics professor. Most of them are awful yes, and physicists have failed the world by not fascinating more young people to become physicists and showing how sexy the subject really is. However, there are diamonds in the rough, you just see the coal in introductory courses. Intro courses are scoffed at, when you get to junior/senior level courses, those shitty profs (some of them) hit their stride like its child's play. I had a stat mech teacher who could not find his way out of a mime's pretend box in physics I, but when I had him for advanced statistical mechanics as a senior, he enlightened us. Extrapolating your diamond analogy, to the untrained eye, diamond's natural state is coal. Most students see the coal part of physics because it is taught by assistant professors trying to get tenure and ignoring their teaching responsibilities, or old degraded diamonds of tenured professors, just fulfilling their required duties. However, teaching takes time to master, and one can harden and sharpen rough pieces of coal and forge diamonds. The trick is finding them.

I actually was contemplating going into geology/geophysics in grad school because physicists (for the most part) are poindexter, know-it-all, elite braggarts. However I love physics too much. I aspire to get a more teaching-oriented physics professorship, so I try to keep perspective on not becoming one of "them" that you speak of. In fact, I quit my major in pure math (which I was much more talented at) because of departmental a**holes in the math department, so I know exactly how your friend felt! It feels like abandonment.

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