Looking for staff clarification on rules about camping

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never understood why people get so stressed out about anything resulting from the raid scene. Either accept that's what you get on a locked server with no instances, or just don't raid.

Go play on live if you want access to 100% of content with no effort, classic was clearly not designed for that.

You've missed a major point: Shiny Brass Idol is not "the raid scene". It's an item that drops in Highpass FFS.

But also, as I just highlighted, while that philosophy used to be warranted in the TMO days, this is not the same server as it used to be, and there actually is a chance for guilds other than "the new TMO" to do top content.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You've missed a major point: Shiny Brass Idol is not "the raid scene". It's an item that drops in Highpass FFS.

No you missed what I said in my post, ANYTHING resulting from the raid scene. This Idol problem only exists because of the raid scene. People who don't raid don't care about having DA to do random group content. And if you absolutely must have one for some crazy solo artist shit, you can easily just buy one.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No you missed what I said in my post, ANYTHING resulting from the raid scene. This Idol problem only exists because of the raid scene. People who don't raid don't care about having DA to do random group content. And if you absolutely must have one for some crazy solo artist shit, you can easily just buy one.

I enjoy bantering with Loramin but this is wrong. It's hard to buy an idol nowadays.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I enjoy bantering with Loramin but this is wrong. It's hard to buy an idol nowadays.

Taken from your post last week:

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You're missing the point. You are a loser for caring about the game and putting time into to acquire the best loot.

If you care that much about idol availability, you're trying to acquire the best loot

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Taken from your post last week:



If you care that much about idol availability, you're trying to acquire the best loot

Look I agree with your over all point. I'm just saying it's disingenuous to say that idols are easy to buy, that's it.

[Crede]

Originally Posted by Hotel [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Look I agree with your over all point. I'm just saying it's disingenuous to say that idols are easy to buy, that's it.

It's not though? Was pretty easy to find for sale, OP was just talking about being able to camp it. Check out Zarza's thread in the EC section. Looks like he's one of the AM dudes permacamping/selling.

[Hotel]

Originally Posted by Crede [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It's not though? Was pretty easy to find for sale, OP was just talking about being able to camp it. Check out Zarza's thread in the EC section. Looks like he's one of the AM dudes permacamping/selling.

Bruh, if you can find an idol today in EC ill buy it from u for 1k.

Zarza has that on his permanent WTB list, he would never sell an idol.

Y u trying to argue this point, it's distracting.

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Grail3r [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Where in the rules does it state that the owner of the camp can give the camp to anyone they wish ? I do not see this rule anywhere .

In fact a list is not even in the rules . So basically you turn up to camp , wait for person to leave . Then its your camp . If someone else comes along and takes camp before other person leaves then petition .

Forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread yet but allow me to give you a scenario.

I’m holding a camp and there’s a list. Suddenly my friend logs on and wants to go next. I pull the plug on my connection. Suddenly list is gone and I can say I had connection problems. Camp becomes open. Friend is right there. The list was cheated and you’ll never prove it.

[Kika Maslyaka]

Originally Posted by Teppler [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Forgive me for not reading the rest of the thread yet but allow me to give you a scenario.

I’m holding a camp and there’s a list. Suddenly my friend logs on and wants to go next. I pull the plug on my connection. Suddenly list is gone and I can say I had connection problems. Camp becomes open. Friend is right there. The list was cheated and you’ll never prove it.

The only way to enforce the list in this case is to have it going LIVE and recorded on these very forums in real time.
So at any given time person can sigh up to the list or see who is next.

So, devs can make a separate forum, and we can have a thread going for each major camp. WOOT 2019 pixels!

P.S. God, how did we do NTVO without the Idol back in a day???

[Teppler]

Originally Posted by Kika Maslyaka [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way to enforce the list in this case is to have it going LIVE and recorded on these very forums in real time.
So at any given time person can sigh up to the list or see who is next.

So, devs can make a separate forum, and we can have a thread going for each major camp. WOOT 2019 pixels!

P.S. God, how did we do NTVO without the Idol back in a day???

Lists get convoluted in many different ways. If rules became king, when I log on I might sign up for any and every desirable camp and just see which opens up first. Then we're gonna end up with every camp having a list of 100 people with people freely logging in and out. It'd be a mess. I'm not sure what the answer is.