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02-26-2010, 03:28 AM
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The Unseen Hand (IN YOUR WALLET)
The Accidental View of History: historical events occur by accident, for no apparent reason. Rulers are powerless to intervene.
The Conspiratorial View of History: historical events occur by design for reasons that are not generally made known to the people. Two thumbs up for starting this thread. I am an un-educated stoner who thrives on video games, every sperm is special. I encourage you to read that letter and of course come to your own conclusion taking in anything you can use and leaving the rest. Growing up with a father probably alot like Joeseph Stack I have learned very quickly at a young age about the corruption of our government, and the rest of the worlds for that matter. Now my father wouldn't have killed himself over the matter he would have went out and picked up a sack, rolled a fat one, and payed the whole world back. Being overwhelmed with the information no 10 year old could understand I did pick up a few good lessons from people like Stack and my father... "Fight the ocean and you will drown." <-- Seriously, you will drown. IF any of you want to make a difference all you have to do is educate yourself and then think of clever ways of educating others about the matter that don't involve you killing yourself. Killing off those who understand the rotting pig stew we're in won't help the fight. Imagine that, everyone who truely understands the corruption and can educate others all fly planes into buildings then guess what, government wins, hello communism. Remember people like Joeseph Stack are convinced your very own government let those planes fly into the towers. THE UNSEEN HAND By A. Ralph Epperson An Introduction to the Conspiratorial View of History Read that book. It's like one of those translated bibles written in plain english even uneducated stoners who thrive on video games can understand. You will get both sides of the story, not just your governments view. This author is not shoving HIS view down your throat. He is giving you BOTH sides of the story. FROM ABRAHAM LINCOLN "When we see a lot of framed timbers, different portions of which we know have been gotten out at different times and places and by different workmen, and when we see these timbers joined together and see that they exactly make the frame of a house or a mill, all the lengths and proportions of the different pieces exactly adapted to their respective pieces, and not a piece too many or too few, not omitting even scaffolding, or if a single piece be lacking, we can see the place in the frame exactly fitted and prepared to yet bring such piece in; in such case, we find it impossible to not believe that they all understood one another from the beginning, and all worked upon a common plan or draft drawn up before the first lick was struck." About the Author The most difficult thing I know to do is to write about myself, but I think that the reader of this book has the right to know something about me, the author, and what motivated me to write it. I am a graduate of the University of Arizona, and like the typical graduate of an institution of higher education, I felt that what I had been taught was the truth. I thought that the only thing I needed to complete my education in the future was additional information to confirm the knowledge to which I had already been exposed. So I faced the future with great anticipation. But a close friend of mine, sensing that my knowledge was both incomplete and one-sided, suggested that I start reading material dealing with what was called "Revisionist History." This was the alternative explanation of history to what I had been taught was the truth. There are over 300 books on both sides of this issue that I've read that are part of the research for this book. That figure, I am certain, is not an impressive number to those who are true "book addicts," but I mention it only to illustrate that the ideas in this book are not mine, but those of the individuals who have taken the time to record their perspective on the events in which they were personally involved or which they researched in depth. But as I read, I noticed that there was no one volume that covered a complete history of the Conspiracy, and it is this void that I hope to fill. It is my intent to catalog as much of the history of this Conspiracy as is possible in a single volume. I have made extensive use of quotations from the works of others as a means of convincing the skeptic that the evidence of the Conspiracy's existence comes from others than this author. What the reader will see as he progresses through this book, I am convinced, is a picture of a giant conspiracy so immense that it poses the greatest threat to the freedoms and rights of all human beings, not only in the United States, but all over the world. It is likely that, as the reader completes this book, despair will replace curiosity, especially if this explanation of the events being reviewed has never been explored before. That is an unfortunate consequence of my research, and the author is sorry that he must be the bearer of such bad tidings. Despair, however, can reasonably be replaced with cautious optimism. The battle is not yet over, and there is reason to be encouraged. But you are the final participant. What happens will largely be dependent on your action once you've read this book. If anyone is seriously intrested in the book i'll post the introduction for further examination of what this book gets into. It really does hold your hand and spell everything out for you. After one reads this book you'll look through this very thread and take note on how ignorant everyone really is that thinks they know anything about todays politics. | ||
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02-26-2010, 01:43 PM
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Title: The Unseen Hand: An Introduction Into the Conspiratorial View of History, 1982
Yeah, I don't see a bias towards one side or the other in that title at all. Quote:
I love how conspiracy theorists say things like "You can't believe everything you read" and "don't trust the government/media/instutition" but then proceed to simply buy into a different theory. Then they say "I know the truth, all you sheep, everyone else is ignorant, I'm so brilliant, check out this you-tube video." | |||
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02-26-2010, 02:05 PM
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Seriously man.. I know that people out there are whack-jobs, but all of these "theories" are not created equal. Some have merit, some do not. To wantonly lump them together as material to be dismissed without examination verges on the fanatical.
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02-26-2010, 02:28 PM
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03-01-2010, 12:07 AM
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Good read. I'd suggest Zen and the Art of Motorcycle Maintenance too.
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03-01-2010, 12:38 AM
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Yea thanks for posting that Hasbinbad I'm surprised I haven't seen it anywhere else (definitely expected it on reddit.) Good read, very true, not sure what I would do taking it that many times from the man. Unfortunately he killed someone innocent.
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03-01-2010, 08:51 AM
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About taxes... Yeah, if you want to learn a thing or two you should watch this http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...0303867390173# Freedom to Fascism. It's a great movie that explains a lot of good stuff for people who don't know anything.
I'd also strongly suggest that you watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...50579849429062 and http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...&q=JFK&view=3# Lastly I would suggest that you watch http://video.google.com/videoplay?do...9%2F11&view=3# All of these documentaries are created by VERY intelligent and respectable people. None of them are created by some random nobody fool. Once you watch all of these, not only will you learn a little bit about the history of the USA, but you will also learn a bit about how screwed up and corrupt the government is. The vast majority of this is either scientifically or historically backed by some of the most intelligent people in each field. There's really nothing to debate about it once you see what you have not seen. They don't teach you this stuff in school growing up... | ||
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03-01-2010, 04:35 PM
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@Hasbin; I'm a little confused.
1) I state that I have noticed a trend in conspiracy theories to have a superiority complex. 2) You point out that that is no reason to dismiss all conspiracy theories. I agree with you on this point. I just think the superior attitude is not beneficial to spreading the theory. 3) I state that I am moderately sceptical of IRS theory based on the 1 page spread he presented. 4) I state that I am attempting to torrent it, but would like more information because the torrent is moving very slowly (3.2% at this moment). 5) IRS refuses to provide more information, showing precisely the superior attitude that I have found in previous research on conspiracy theories. 6) I say that more information would be helpful for understanding the theory. You jump in at this point, seeming to confuse the fact that I am not necessarily referring to all conspiracy theories, but just a trend I have seen when investigating them thus far. I have done a fair bit of reading (not only youtube videos and online, but also in psychological and historical journals and physical books from both sides of the pro and anti conspiracy theory sides), but have not encountered the author IRS specifically mentioned. The conspiracy theories that have seen most reasonable are the ones that avoid the superior attitude. I am not trying to dismiss all conspiracy theories; I think several (but not all) have valid and interesting things to say. But even as I find facts and ideas very interesting (and true, some of the time), I often find the method and tone poor for explaining the ideas contained in even the most-likely true of conspiracy theories. Now I'm confused as to what part of this you disagree with. @Banned: Good videos (though some of the content isn't true, most noticably and obviously with the first video) I had seen the first 3, but the last one I only had found clips of. I'll watch the rest this afternoon probably. | ||
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