Chillwin trains BG, gets the boot outa ToV

[k9quaint]

Originally Posted by Swish2 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Definitely a 50 dkp minus for Chillwin here [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If that lizard (looks like a shaman) in the back corner had stayed tucked, the train would have reset after killing Icrit and Lavitiz.

The lesson is, stay tucked on earthquakes!

[Zal22]

Icrit Mypants. Lol

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This exactly. I'm far from crucifying Chillwin who is a decent chap, but this whole 'Chillwin did nothing wrong' movement is silly.



The thing is though, because you have to camp out everywhere you end up playing multiple toons, I think it's generally more effective to spread the love a little rather than being the weak link in the raid gear-wise 75% of the time. Especially since you can pick up those high bang-for-the-dkp-buck items like a Belt of the Destroyer, Zlandi talisman and 2H primal, etc.

I'm pretty happy with putting all my dkp on Nexii. 95% of the time I raid on her, there's never an excess of clerics. Also I feel there's more prestige in staying dedicated to a main character.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Irulan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I've never set foot in ToV

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

thats how they got trained tho, the halfling did it. chillwin was gonna make it just fine. say what you will about his hygiene, he made the right call.

Originally Posted by Frudrura [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Chillwin did nothing wrong.

hehe

anyhoo, /wave @ Chillwin.

[Nexii]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath hasn't done anything like that in years. We don't treat our members like it's North Korea. It's currently a 500 DKP dock by warm bodies in Tempest/Awakened if caught (I got hit with one and /guildremoved, best decision ever). Aftermath members are basically free to post whatever as long as they don't bash the staff.

If anything how Tempest treats their players would lower their GM faction. But we all know that such rules are just to prevent desertion. If your players are afraid to talk to anyone outside the guild then they'll assume the other raid guilds are as toxic.

Come over to South Korea and be free. Crossing the DMZ is as easy as visiting http://aftermath99.org
Soon both sides will be re-united in harmony.

[slayerofwither]

Originally Posted by gkmarino [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You obviously don't understand the agro mechanics of trains.

Says the dude from Blood Guard

[TheWord]

Originally Posted by Daloon [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Aftermath hasn't done anything like that in years. We don't treat our members like it's North Korea. It's currently a 500 DKP dock by warm bodies in Tempest/Awakened if caught (I got hit with one and /guildremoved, best decision ever). Aftermath members are basically free to post whatever as long as they don't bash the staff.

I'm pretty sure the reason Tempest does not post in RnF is because they do not treat that as a PR stunt like Aftermath has been doing here. You guys in Aftermath seem to have a hard-on for Tempest members, like some obsessive compulsive stalker. Get over them. Quit with your little propaganda stunts and move the hell on.

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything how Tempest treats their players would lower their GM faction. But we all know that such rules are just to prevent desertion. If your players are afraid to talk to anyone outside the guild then they'll assume the other raid guilds are as toxic.

Come over to South Korea and be free. Crossing the DMZ is as easy as visiting http://aftermath99.org
Soon both sides will be re-united in harmony.

Believe the only people that make the raid scene toxic has been Aftermath with all the shit-talking, egregious tactics, and above all poor sportsman-like conduct.

[Mblake1981]

Originally Posted by Nexii [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If anything how Tempest treats their players would lower their GM faction. But we all know that such rules are just to prevent desertion. If your players are afraid to talk to anyone outside the guild then they'll assume the other raid guilds are as toxic.

Come over to South Korea and be free. Crossing the DMZ is as easy as visiting http://aftermath99.org
Soon both sides will be re-united in harmony.

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[Ruhtar]

Originally Posted by TheWord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe the only people that make the raid scene toxic has been Aftermath with all the shit-talking, egregious tactics, and above all poor sportsman-like conduct.

You're either new here or apart of the problem. Either way, that's incorrect.

Also, while Chillwen is not the only one to blame for that train, it was also stated repeatedly to not train west and/or call trains, which looks like there was a train in west and no calls. And while Icrit is an idiot, he was trying to run through stealth, but got hit by AE from...the train. It's almost like the monk could've FD'ed at any moment prior to prevent this.

[Legday]

Originally Posted by TheWord [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Believe the only people that make the raid scene toxic has been Aftermath with all the shit-talking, egregious tactics, and above all poor sportsman-like conduct.

15 yard penalty. Automatic first down.

If BG was AM in this scenario I think Rogean would have handled it differently, but you can't expect a player in a smaller guild to get agro and not have the knee jerk reaction he did. No offense BG.

Also RNF gag worked for Rampage because they were good. Hasn't played well since that. Imagine being in the guild getting rolled every week and also having a muzzle on?