cannabis as an Alternative medicine

[America]

Originally Posted by Wonkie [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

weed is a modernday scourge op

[-TK-]

What made me actually start smoking bud were my dreams. I HATE dreaming because I'd have 2-3 part dreams in one night that make me feel like I never slept and I'd wake up wondering if the dreams were real and it would sometimes take me 15-30 minutes to shake it - they usually weren't pleasant. Now I just smoke a little within an hour of going to bed and I don't remember dreaming if I did. I can buy the concentrates in my state so I actually smoke very little.

I'm not any kind of extreme example, but I've always been open with my doctors about my use, and while they don't necessarily tell me to smoke, they accept that it works and I'm not on some OTC or prescription sleep aid. My anxiety levels also dropped dramatically, but I don't attribute that to the bud. I attribute that to the fact that I can get 5-8 hours of solid sleep now.

[JurisDictum]

Here's the deal with Marijuana:

It doesn't stay extremely potent for that long. Over time you get a kind of semi-permanent tolerance to the foggy effects of it. You don't get "the munchies" regularly anymore. You also won't get hours of an euraphoric high where you can barely function.

While you won't be near your peak of intellectual ability right after you smoke, you probably could smoke a joint while driving to work if that kind of thing was socially acceptable. It's not much different than taking some anti-anxiety meds before work.

If you are not used to it -- you would be way to high to think about going to work or driving.

If you encounter someone that smokes daily -- they are either an addict or using it like a medication. I draw the distinction between the super addicts that smoke dabs all day in an effort to get as high as possible (they usually drink and do other drugs too) -- and people that smoke more moderately throughout the day.

Reguardless. If your body is used to smoking pot and you suddenly stop. You will have physical withdraw symptoms:

Cant sleep

Irratable and emotional

sweaty and hyped up

not hungry

But im sure lots of drugs prescribed by doctors work the same.

Pot helps with workout recovery and depression (huge portion of professional athletes smoke pot). IDK if it helps with anxiety though...unless you are high all day you tend to get more anxious as you sober up. This ends up putting the smoker on a anxiety roller-coaster they have to deal with. Usually they deal with this by yelling at their romantic partner or severe road rage.

Marijuana is probably the best drug for sleep on the planet. Nightly use will basically give you perfect sleep the rest of your life.

[Throndor]

Originally Posted by JurisDictum [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Here's the deal with Marijuana:

It doesn't stay extremely potent for that long. Over time you get a kind of semi-permanent tolerance to the foggy effects of it. You don't get "the munchies" regularly anymore. You also won't get hours of an euraphoric high where you can barely function.

While you won't be near your peak of intellectual ability right after you smoke, you probably could smoke a joint while driving to work if that kind of thing was socially acceptable. It's not much different than taking some anti-anxiety meds before work.

If you are not used to it -- you would be way to high to think about going to work or driving.

If you encounter someone that smokes daily -- they are either an addict or using it like a medication. I draw the distinction between the super addicts that smoke dabs all day in an effort to get as high as possible (they usually drink and do other drugs too) -- and people that smoke more moderately throughout the day.

Reguardless. If your body is used to smoking pot and you suddenly stop. You will have physical withdraw symptoms:

Cant sleep

Irratable and emotional

sweaty and hyped up

not hungry

But im sure lots of drugs prescribed by doctors work the same.

Pot helps with workout recovery and depression (huge portion of professional athletes smoke pot). IDK if it helps with anxiety though...unless you are high all day you tend to get more anxious as you sober up. This ends up putting the smoker on a anxiety roller-coaster they have to deal with. Usually they deal with this by yelling at their romantic partner or severe road rage.

Marijuana is probably the best drug for sleep on the planet. Nightly use will basically give you perfect sleep the rest of your life.

I dont know about the last statement. The rest of it seems pretty spot on. Ive been off just about everything for a couple weeks now. Gnostic meditation into sleep seems to be a bit more restful than toking regularly but the verducts still not out. I believe whatever weed does to the psyche actually works against successful meditation.

Ill get back to you on the findings after further research, in any fashion.

Regards,
T

[ScaringChildren]

Mom says weed was made by the devil

[America]

cannabis is a OK alternative to medicine if being fucked up is enough to manage ur condition.

opiates are far and away more useful. and they don't trigger schizoid avoidant/oppositional personality disorders.

[Wonkie]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cannabis is a OK alternative to medicine if being fucked up is enough to manage ur condition.

opiates are far and away more useful. and they don't trigger schizoid avoidant/oppositional personality disorders.

giev senzu bean

[Muggens]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

cannabis is a OK alternative to medicine if being fucked up is enough to manage ur condition.

opiates are far and away more useful. and they don't trigger schizoid avoidant/oppositional personality disorders.

Could you elaborate? Been a huge smoker since the 90s but recently been cutting back bigtime

[America]

part and parcel of paranoid schizophrenia is "negativity"/"oppositionality". it's the tendency to interpret stimuli negatively and people as adversaries. whether or not you suffer an underlying disorder which will be exacerbated by it, weed induces paranoid / schizoid symptomatology. it darkens your lens.

ppl who disagree tend to be on the junkie logic thing. or, for alcohol: "I don't get hangovers"

[Cecily]

Originally Posted by America [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

part and parcel of paranoid schizophrenia is "negativity"/"oppositionality". it's the tendency to interpret stimuli negatively and people as adversaries. whether or not you suffer an underlying disorder which will be exacerbated by it, weed induces paranoid / schizoid symptomatology. it darkens your lens.

ppl who disagree tend to be on the junkie logic thing. or, for alcohol: "I don't get hangovers"

Negative and disagreeable are two of my defining character traits, just like my grandmother, and we’re not schizophrenics. We’re more like: This shit is wrong and you’re an idiot. My way is better and screw you if you disagree. We are right, more often than not, because we’re not idiots; however, people tend to let their bruised egos get in the way of improving whatever thing is it we’re bitching about. It’s about improving things that are wrong. Unfortunately, I’m very good at spotting flaws in everything wrong out there, and I lack the tact to keep my mouth shut about it.

Putting it less unflatteringly, I’m a pessimist who, as pessimists do, has a closer view of reality than anyone (most people) with an optimism bias. I also don’t mind causing strife in order to bring that unnoticed reality to light.

That is to say I’m destined to most likely always be a hypercritical bitch thanks to grandma and father being my way or the highway types. Yeah, that’s my fatal flaw. Not schizophrenic though!


Positive / agreeable types are dumbs anyway.