NPC Spawn Issue: ClassicQuest That Matters - The Case For a Smaller Vessel Drozlin Window

[zipzapzop]

Vessel was even more common on live than 2-4 day respawn. This is because the server came down at a predictable interval every week and he was always up following it.

It was an average 3 day respawn and a free one every 7th day due to server maintenance. Spawn rate on P99 is ridiculously low.

[Rysva]

Originally Posted by zipzapzop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Vessel was even more common on live than 2-4 day respawn. This is because the server came down at a predictable interval every week and he was always up following it.

It was an average 3 day respawn and a free one every 7th day due to server maintenance. Spawn rate on P99 is ridiculously low.

That’s a very good point. Basing VD’s spawntime for p99 on Bjornstar‘s info (kudos for all his research on the chanter epic) is not reasonable, as I witnessed yesterday that both VT & VD spawned after a quake, whereas he claims they do not. His info on this matter is not accurate, which was already proved for VT in the past.

Playing on live I remember the chanter epic to be one of the easier attainable ones, not relying on rare contested drops like other epics, just two bottlenecks (VD & VT), easy kills you just needed to wait for. And, like Zipzapzop wrote, due to weekly server resets you could just camp out your team at the spawnpoint and gank him. This was done regularly, all the chanters in my guild (Weltenbrand - Druzzil Ro) at the time (99-03) got VD that way.

Taking some stress out of VD would also help the current competition between lootright sellers and the players who either don‘t have the affordable amounts and/or are not willing to pay for their epic and would want to earn their epic by investing the time needed for a poopsock camp. Seeing what happened at VD after the quake yesterday speaks for itself. We need a fix to this, so please, change the spawntime so we can have the classic game experience.

[Tewaz]

Bump

[Tunabros]

remember that devs do not like it when you bump threads endlessly without anything new

to add

[Hideousclaw]

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Bump

Originally Posted by Tunabros [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

remember that devs do not like it when you bump threads endlessly without anything new

to add

Thanks for your bump. Lots of great evidence here. Make that change

[Tewaz]

I’m going to bump this daily until it changes.

There hasn’t been a single developer reply to this in two years.

Last quake a rogue clearly hot swapped or boxed a rogue to FTE VD then refused to kill him while selling LR on discord and by private message. He took over 13 minutes to kill the mob while getting a buyer lined up.

VD window is too long. Easy dev fix.

Or you can go along thinking a single player burning multiple stacks of wort pots to solo a mob for 20 minutes while taunting 12 other players logged in watching as they advertise loot rights to run a player out and loot an item is classic and not against a play nice policy.

If that’s so, fuck this server. Ogres in doorways, healing and memblurring, or straight clickfesting to ninja loot are also classic in this vein.

Change the shit devs.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by tranceminus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can we please get a comment from an admin/dev on whether they're aware of this, disagree with this, agree with this, etc?

No, you can't. Or at least, it's incredibly unlikely.

Look, maybe this wasn't obvious from:

Originally Posted by Tewaz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There hasn’t been a single developer reply to this in two years.

... but clearly Nilbog has made a choice here. That choice is either to not fix this issue, or to fix it someday in the future. As others have tried to explain, Nilbog's actions will not be influenced by posts here.

Now, Nilbog doesn't strike me as an aggressive guy, so I wouldn't expect that he'd come tell you that you are idiots for posting. But he's also not going to let a few players dictate how he builds the server that he's spent over ten years of his life building.

So y'all can keep bumping all you want, but again, it's not going to do anything. And to be clear, I don't speak for Nilbog, and I have no special insight: you too can know exactly what I just explained yourself ... simply read past bug posts and see.

[Croco]

Originally Posted by loramin [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

No, you can't. Or at least, it's incredibly unlikely.

Look, maybe this wasn't obvious from:



... but clearly Nilbog has made a choice here. That choice is either to not fix this issue, or to fix it someday in the future. As others have tried to explain, Nilbog's actions will not be influenced by posts here.

Now, Nilbog doesn't strike me as an aggressive guy, so I wouldn't expect that he'd come tell you that you are idiots for posting. But he's also not going to let a few players dictate how he builds the server that he's spent over ten years of his life building.

So y'all can keep bumping all you want, but again, it's not going to do anything. And to be clear, I don't speak for Nilbog, and I have no special insight: you too can know exactly what I just explained yourself ... simply read past bug posts and see.

Can you even imagine how amazing it would be if there was even a little bit of transparency and communication from the devs about what's being worked on?

How many posts would've never happened if there was a list that everyone could see of all the things the devs are aware of and being worked on or that are working as intended and will remain as they are?

None of the devs/staff have any obligation to say anything or respond to any post but the staggering amount of trouble they would save and frustration that would be alleviated is immeasurable if they did decide to communicate more.

The lack of communication between the staff and the player base and crazy long amount of time between patches is really sad.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by Croco [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Can you even imagine how amazing it would be if there was even a little bit of transparency and communication from the devs about what's being worked on?

How many posts would've never happened if there was a list that everyone could see of all the things the devs are aware of and being worked on or that are working as intended and will remain as they are?

None of the devs/staff have any obligation to say anything or respond to any post but the staggering amount of trouble they would save and frustration that would be alleviated is immeasurable if they did decide to communicate more.

The lack of communication between the staff and the player base and crazy long amount of time between patches is really sad.

I absolutely agree: more communication from the staff would be lovely!

Also, while I don't know the details of this bug, I'm very much against making the Enchanter epic unclassically hard. I'm against anything unclassic, but it cuts both ways: Enchanters on P99 have charming unclassicaly easy. I'd like to see less charm soloing Enchanters AND more Enchanters with snake sticks ... which is to say, I want the classic Enchanter in all their classic glory [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

But aside from all all that, I'm also a developer myself, and most days I can't even be arsed to put an hour of work into my side project. Nilbog has put in far, far more than that ... for 10+ years! I can't even begin to explain how incredible that is.

If him ignoring all us asshole players, and refusing to communicate with us, is what it takes to keep him sane and still cranking out these classic fixes after all these years ... I think we can all make due with a lack of communication.

[aakatz]

2-7 not classic. please review