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Old 01-22-2018, 08:38 PM
Beastagoog Beastagoog is offline
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this ban is actually why this server has 80 pop on it.

everything is streamlined for PvE -- i wasn't even a PvPer when I played and I can confirm this is true.

i hope DBG makes their PvP TLP eventually, playing on Agnarr you can see their current GM ruleset would go perfectly for a PvP server. They only ban people who constantly intentionally train with video evidence submitted. They dont give a fuck what happens in the day-to-day PvE scene, you can steal mobs all day long on there if you're that type of player.

All they need to do is enable PvP with this ruleset and bam, let the fun begin.

CIAO
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Old 01-22-2018, 08:43 PM
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this ban is actually why this server has 80 pop on it.

everything is streamlined for PvE -- i wasn't even a PvPer when I played and I can confirm this is true.

i hope DBG makes their PvP TLP eventually, playing on Agnarr you can see their current GM ruleset would go perfectly for a PvP server. They only ban people who constantly intentionally train with video evidence submitted. They dont give a fuck what happens in the day-to-day PvE scene, you can steal mobs all day long on there if you're that type of player.

All they need to do is enable PvP with this ruleset and bam, let the fun begin.

CIAO
are they planning to? or is it just hope? sounds like about the only time i'd consider givin daybork cash again
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Old 01-22-2018, 09:16 PM
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On the one hand, it is dumb that a huge train is essentially equal to pvp immunity for a bard, but on the other hand - if you root them or you rapture them or do anything else that will allow their train to catch up to them, it is TOTALLY CERTAIN that they will take an exp death. The likelihood of you as the pvper actually getting the kill shot in against a com swarm is vanishing-to-none. It's very disingenuous to claim that all you wanted to do was pvp - all you guys posting here about how unfair this is, you're smirking out of the other side of your mouth. Not one of you cast that root or that rapture actually thinking "yeah I'm going to get a YT out of this" - every last one of you KNOWS you are exp-deathing someone, and that's why the rule is right even if it's sad that it has to be that way.

If it were my server to make rules for, I'd ban swarm kiting. Problem solved. It's not classic, it disrupts the zone for people who are there for the classic experience, and it causes this issue with pvp as well. Also, it's monstrously boring for everyone but the bard and it generates hordes of 50+ characters with underdeveloped skills.

Also, LNS is stupid and I've never done it once, even if I am a pacifist who refuses to pvp. If you're getting successfully griefed, you're not imaginative enough, or you stuck your neck out way farther than you should have and are now getting what you deserve. LNS is just a crutch.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:22 PM
Tigerstyle Wutangfist Tigerstyle Wutangfist is offline
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Inconsistent enforcement is the issue why the pop is 80. GM's make case-by-case calls only when they are around sporadically. Having action only when invisible gms are present to observe opens a giant window for "we only enforce when we feel like it, and only in favor of X" with zero accountability.
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Old 01-22-2018, 10:35 PM
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Server actually at 150 today which is decent compared to the 80's it had for a year. The fact that remains tho is everQ and some people stuck on the ever part.

GL HF no rush 5 mins

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Old 01-22-2018, 10:41 PM
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are they planning to? or is it just hope? sounds like about the only time i'd consider givin daybork cash again
hope so.

kinda keen for eq+pvp but red99 is such a turn off.
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Old 01-22-2018, 11:34 PM
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Servant, you understand by me killing Decibel? All of the scums would should up? 5+ apex would show up and then boom we have solid pvp for the night.
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Old 01-23-2018, 02:23 AM
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im with servant on this one.
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Old 01-23-2018, 03:53 AM
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are they planning to? or is it just hope? sounds like about the only time i'd consider givin daybork cash again
the leaks indicate that daybreak believes the emulated pvp community is responsible for a lot of trolling/harassment/automated spam/training/toxicity/hacking that happened to Daybreak Games during the initial TLP both on the official Daybreak forums and in-game....which is accurate. However only a few red members were responsible for this harassment. However it was determined a number of red players were also training and behaving like Rellapse in-game as well. So they formed a general opinion that emulated pvp is a tiny toxic minority that has to be carefully managed.

1 year later during the brokering of the Daybreak-P99 agreement, the daybreak staff let rogean know how little they think of red. They also said to leave red where they are.

And you think you're getting a TLP?? come on
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Old 01-23-2018, 10:59 AM
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The enforcement of CC a swarming bard should be enforced the same as disrupting/monopolizing a zone. You either allow someone the ability to stop someone from monopolizing a zone through PvP or you make both the intentional exp loss and monopolizing illegal.
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