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Old 11-27-2017, 09:38 PM
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I am your typical "forever 126lbs no matter how much and what I eat" not sure what your technical term is, but I understand I am the enemy in this thread.

I have a question tho... I live in Japan right. And EVERYONE eats wheat, and flour, and every bad thing that was mentioned in this thread, and everyone is absolutely thin and tiny and sexy as hell.

I also happen to be born French, and we French people eat a loooot of cheese, bread, alcohol and everything you say is bad... and they're still mostly thin and small (and not so sexy but hey we can't have everything!)

Are American a different species? What's up with you guys? I see all these diets and advice and how to eat, and carbs this, calorie that, bad fat, good fat... why does every person talking about these things and knowing all these terms are always fat and everyone around me that is thin doesn't know shit about them ><

I realize my post is a bit condescending but it's a pain to rewrite it on my cell lol - however I want to conclude by saying it is actually a legit question... like I don't understand this whole trend of eating healthy and analysing everything that goes in your stomach when you see the countries where it is the most popular are the fattest countries and countries where nobody gives a fuck are the thinnest countries... what's going on?
A) Americans are way more sedentary than the Japanese or French
B) Americans eat huge portions
C) Americans snack a lot between meals
D) American foods have tons of added sugar
E) Americans eat a lot of calorie-rich convenience food (eg. McDonald's)
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Old 11-28-2017, 10:37 AM
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I am your typical "forever 126lbs no matter how much and what I eat" not sure what your technical term is, but I understand I am the enemy in this thread.

I have a question tho... I live in Japan right. And EVERYONE eats wheat, and flour, and every bad thing that was mentioned in this thread, and everyone is absolutely thin and tiny and sexy as hell.

I also happen to be born French, and we French people eat a loooot of cheese, bread, alcohol and everything you say is bad... and they're still mostly thin and small (and not so sexy but hey we can't have everything!)

Are American a different species? What's up with you guys? I see all these diets and advice and how to eat, and carbs this, calorie that, bad fat, good fat... why does every person talking about these things and knowing all these terms are always fat and everyone around me that is thin doesn't know shit about them ><

I realize my post is a bit condescending but it's a pain to rewrite it on my cell lol - however I want to conclude by saying it is actually a legit question... like I don't understand this whole trend of eating healthy and analysing everything that goes in your stomach when you see the countries where it is the most popular are the fattest countries and countries where nobody gives a fuck are the thinnest countries... what's going on?
aside from the radical differences in portion size and nutrient profile, the Japanese are steeped in a vitalising brew of discipline and conformity from childhood rather than the festering vat of dementing individualism and wanton liberty in which Americans are cultivated. the Japanese have neither the time nor inclination to lament the meaninglessness of their existence or arbitrarily fill their free time by stuffing their faces. and even if they do, destructive behavior is regulated by much more stringently qualified standards of social acceptance.

for weight, what one eats matters only insofar as how easy it is to overeat. eating large amounts of sugar leaves one feeling hungry sooner, increasing the likelihood of someone responding to their feelings to eat again sooner than they should. eating foods high in fat makes it easier to eat more calories in a single setting.

i think it makes sense that the people who would care most about an issue would be the ones who struggle greatest with it ^^
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Old 11-28-2017, 01:40 PM
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I am your typical "forever 126lbs no matter how much and what I eat" not sure what your technical term is, but I understand I am the enemy in this thread.

I have a question tho... I live in Japan right. And EVERYONE eats wheat, and flour, and every bad thing that was mentioned in this thread, and everyone is absolutely thin and tiny and sexy as hell.

I also happen to be born French, and we French people eat a loooot of cheese, bread, alcohol and everything you say is bad... and they're still mostly thin and small (and not so sexy but hey we can't have everything!)

Are American a different species? What's up with you guys? I see all these diets and advice and how to eat, and carbs this, calorie that, bad fat, good fat... why does every person talking about these things and knowing all these terms are always fat and everyone around me that is thin doesn't know shit about them ><

I realize my post is a bit condescending but it's a pain to rewrite it on my cell lol - however I want to conclude by saying it is actually a legit question... like I don't understand this whole trend of eating healthy and analysing everything that goes in your stomach when you see the countries where it is the most popular are the fattest countries and countries where nobody gives a fuck are the thinnest countries... what's going on?
What I have seen is cultural differences play a part with a countries overall health. For instance in Russia people commonly eat meats, cheese, breads, fish, drink alcohol, they even favor high fat content in their milk as it tastes creamier and better. They do not count calories or worry about carbs or follow fancy diet plans either. Why are Russians so fit looking and in shape?

What I found was they drink green teas commonly, they also tend to walk a lot! Not just out of necessity either, but out of habit. After a meal, families often walk in the evening time... Americans seem to not have many healthy habits like this, it's almost as if the USA has taken all the unhealthy habits from all the different cultures it has absorbed and tends to follow those.

Another facet to the weight problem in the USA I believe has to do with the processed foods we consume. I have not researched this, because I'd probably never eat anything we buy in the stores here again, but I am sure chemicals/preservatives/genetically modified organisms/etc. contribute to the health problems Americans have starting with their food supply.

Another thing is in other countries there simply isn't nearly the market the USA has for restaurants! In every city of the USA, there are literally hundreds perhaps thousands of restaurants! These restaurants also serve gigantic portions, another cultural difference between the USA and other countries. My experience is that the average foreigner simply doesn't consume the amount of food Americans commonly do.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:08 PM
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After you are the weight you want to be you eat more like 1800-2000 calories -- but the same kind of diet.
Just want to point out:

1) double check all the numbers I give you for age/height etc

2) that number is for people that basically ran on the tredmil and are skinny now and dont want to be fat again. Muscular people that are gaining more muscle eat more. They tend to eat something like 3500 calories (in 30s) with lots of protein.

So if you have a love of eating, building muscle is your best path to eating a lot and being healthy at the same time.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:12 PM
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Pokesan you're so ignorant in this matter I'm stunned. Look into Vitamin K2, which is in grass-fed butter. Look into the health benefits of Vitamin K2 for your arteries.

Christ... I hope I don't have to spell this out for you
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:15 PM
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i think butter is not a beverage
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:19 PM
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i think butter is not a beverage
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i think butter is not a beverage
Fat is a flavor enhancer so it makes sense that it might not be terrible, however I agree and think drinking butter sounds disgusting.
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Old 11-27-2017, 09:44 PM
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Fat is a flavor enhancer so it makes sense that it might not be terrible, however I agree and think drinking butter sounds disgusting.
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Go try some bulletproof coffee and then come back with your report.
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