Game Mechanics: Paladin holy forge disc

[Ennewi]

Very early SoL thread "RE: Paladin undead crit log (long)" pertaining to the disc. Trying to find the first post or a reply that contains its logs.

https://web.archive.org/web/20020105....topic&index=8

[Rygar]

https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/...broken.261724/

If you don't have combat fury, you SHOULD be getting almost no crits or crips at all. Going an entire holyforge with 0 crippling blows was not abnormal back in 2000 at all. 0 crits though would be very unlikely.

Just sayin'

[Rygar]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Did the critical hits only affect undead? I recall my paladin getting crits versus living sometimes but it may have been a limited bug, and I don't remember ever crippling vs a living npc.

I'm regards to this, granted it is a 2020 conversation regarding TLP paladins
https://forums.daybreakgames.com/eq/.../#post-3915882

Niente also says that Crippling Blows from HF require an undead target and I think all paladins know that that is not true (a noticeable benefit of HF are cripples vs live mobs).

See Combat Fury AA

Niente made at last that one mistake in his thoughtful post about how the code works. Is he wrong a both counts? Apparently so. Is Holyforge more beneficial in it's current form, i.e. not working from 55 to 58 and yet providing crippling blows to live mobs from 55 to 115+? Maybe paladins on live will say "leave it alone". While TLP paladins, who keep reliving the 55-60 era, will say "fix the bug". This thread is evidence of the latter.

[Ennewi]

Trying to ascertain class of Shackle, the half elf positioned underneath Zlandi who crips. Could well be war, and not pal.

https://www.firesofheaven.org/thread...ts.9033/page-7

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[Ennewi]

https://web.archive.org/web/20010605...i/EQ/rasii.htm

Reported from 2001, wielding Natures Defender.

Koyataro(ND PAL) lands a Crippling Blow! (418)
TritonはSleeper。

[cadiz]

Originally Posted by nilbog [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have some pending changes for holyforge. Well, it works now at least.

I'd like some help with additional research.

Did the critical hits only affect undead? I recall my paladin getting crits versus living sometimes but it may have been a limited bug, and I don't remember ever crippling vs a living npc.

Are there any available combat log snippets/screenshots of a player using holyforge prior to 2002?

Your recollection matches my experiences, the crits were against both undead and living targets but I only experienced crippling blows against undead.

I will try to look for some screenshots to support this but I vividly remember the above working as you explained it.