RIP Chester Bennington

[Jimjam]

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Another thing to consider with suicide 'victims' is that they often have low self esteem and a world view in which their life is unimportant to anyone. They may believe their close ones will be better off without them.

In their mind their death could be an altruistic martyrdom, not a selfish act.

Anyway, RIP Chester, my thoughts with his children and so on, and more broadly with all those having to deal with these issues or the fallout from them.

[loramin]

Originally Posted by http://www.npr.org/programs/death/980429.death.html

ARANGA: What we really think that is happening in suicide is that the person is unable to inhibit the desire to go ahead and kill himself or herself.

TRUDEAU: After a decade of work studying over 175 brains, the research group in New York has found that the serotonin braking system is defective in many suicide victims. Their brains are anatomically different than the brains of people who have died of natural causes. Specifically, Aranga has discovered a malfunction in the area of the brain right above the eyes called the pre-frontal cortex, the place where executive decisions are made dictating what feelings we will act upon and what feelings we will inhibit.

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TRUDEAU: Another team member, neuroscientist Mark Underwood (ph), is looking at a different part of the brains of suicide victims, at the back, an area called the brain stem. Enlisting the power of the computer, Underwood counts the number of serotonin nerve cells. There too, the serotonin system looks faulty.

MARK UNDERWOOD, NEUROSCIENTIST, NEW YORK STATE PSYCHIATRIC INSTITUTE: We have found hat there are approximately 30 percent more of these serotonin neurons in the suicide victims than in the controls. To find more neurons would suggest something very fundamental, such that you may in fact be born with your biological risk for suicide behavior.

Science!

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[Mead]

I'm sure Chester Bennington learned many coping mechanisms in his time as a musician, drug user, and alcoholic to combat his depression and past abuse. We are most certain he was of sound mind when he made the decision to kill himself.

[NorseGod]

linkin park was horrible, but suicide is sad.

[khanable]

confession

i just listened to their newest album and liked it

[Cecily]

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confession

i just listened to their newest album and liked it

Yeah, I think I'm gonna give this one a fair listen to. I'm confident the older albums are tweenwave emo bullshit, but Heavy, the song the LP fans hated always hit me real hard. "Holding on, why is everything so heavy?" which, lets be real, is the whole song is nonetheless a powerful and succinct way to describe what it's like being on the verge of suicide. It's put me in tears a few times.

[Matthalas Winterheart]

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Yeah, I think I'm gonna give this one a fair listen to. I'm confident the older albums are tweenwave emo bullshit, but Heavy, the song the LP fans hated always hit me real hard. "Holding on, why is everything so heavy?" which, lets be real, is the whole song is nonetheless a powerful and succinct way to describe what it's like being on the verge of suicide. It's put me in tears a few times.

This song has also been one that has had a profound effect on me. It is such a different sound that what their fans and the industry have grown accustomed to.

[Cecily]

Haha. Too late! Switched that to a PM. Who wants to guess who that was to?

[Priceline]

Never been a LP fan, I wasn't an angsty teen anymore when they got popular I guess. Bummer for those who digged the music tho.

Cobain and Stayley were the ones that hit the hardest for me. The ragiest screamiest power ballads don't hold a candle to something like this, imo.

[AzzarTheGod]

Originally Posted by Priceline [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Never been a LP fan, I wasn't an angsty teen anymore when they got popular I guess. Bummer for those who digged the music tho.

Cobain and Stayley were the ones that hit the hardest for me. The ragiest screamiest power ballads don't hold a candle to something like this, imo.

Chester was a legend because he could scream in harmony and hit different notes with his screams. Theres other singers people have pointed out from the 70's and 80's (allegedly Freddie Mercury is one) that could also do this.

But Chester was much more of a vocal talent than say...Marilyn Manson.

No knock on Manson he is an amazing artist and I've appreciated his work esp thru Eat me Drink me. I haven't checked his softer stuff because as you said, if you aren't an angsty teen anymore its like why bother? I'm not really big on checking an artists growth or that whole bit. But I also don't care much about re-checking the growth of friends who sucked or I out-grew--temporarily leaving them.

I guess he put an album out where he evolved because the producer was this married with kids guy who kept telling him he wasn't going to allow him to write a manifesto of anger against society. He told Marilyn if he kept coming to the studio with lyrics about subject matter that he will just keep throwing them in the trash. Marilyn later said it was unlike any working process he had ever participated in, and he appreciated the opportunity.

I'll probably listen to it at some point before Manson dies in the next year or two. (CALLING IT)