What is the hardest dungeon in the game?

[alexnoshinku]

As a low level, unrest was a death trap. Other than that Kedge Keep most likely or chardok XD (If trying to solo)

[greenspectre]

Your experiences in Lower Guk would vary wildly based on your class. For a monk/warrior/SK/bard I could understand hating it. I main'ed a paladin during the first few expansions on live, and Guk was absolutely the easiest dungeon in the game for me. When Velious hit and we got IoN it became even easier. The only complaint I ever had about that zone were the goddamn bats that would break your IvU. Between Pacify, anti-undead spells, and stuns for the casters, a Paladin could start soloing there at 40 or so and never look back. Cashing out on loot there was always a good way to make money as a class that couldn't kill Hill Giants, too.

I know they're raid zones, but how come there's no mention of PoFear/Hate 1.0? I remember several raids wiping because you couldn't even zone in safely. Fear was the worst for that shit, too. Zone-in meant killing 10-20 mobs because they'd keep adding as you fought. And in Hate 1.0 they would just agro through the walls out of nowhere.

[MilanderTruewield]

Fact check prior to posting. I read the above post and was like "OMG! Instrument of Nife was a Velious spell??" Lo and behold, it is a Luclin spell [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Vexenu]

Since so many people mentioned Dalnir I decided to take a stroll through there last night to refresh my memory of the place. Can confirm: it really is that bad. Whoever designed and populated it was a special kind of sadistic. What makes Dalnir stand out is an extremely high mob density, and most of those mobs are casters or SKs. On the first floor alone you'll see multiple rooms with 4-5 pet casters in them. You also have see-invis goos interspersed randomly throughout the zone, so you can't reliably invis around safely. You drop down to the second floor and you're surrounded by a high density group of Sarnaks, including Wizards, Necros and Shamans. On most pulls you'll have to deal with 3-4 mobs at a time. Then you drop down to the third floor. The situation becomes even more claustrophobic, with very little room to manuever. Casters and see invis goos are running all over the place. You have to duck-walk through a bloody coffin to get to the second half of the third floor, which is filled to the brim with Sarnak casters. Then finally, if you want to leave this horrible place, you've got to get by the Kly Overseer to the zone-out pad. He seems to be a combination Wizard/Enchanter. He procs a 500 PBAOE ice spell and a stone spider stun (10-12 second stun I believe). He also charms.

So a very rough place for the mid 30s, especially if undergeared. A good Enchanter would be an absolute necessity, and a Bard for backup would be nice. A Paladin tank to help shut down the casters would be very helpful as well. Even with an optimal group composition and good twinking the zone would still be a challenge. I have a hard time imagining an average Kunark-era pickup group having much success there at all.

[greenspectre]

Sorry about that Milander, lol. Memory was a bit fuzzy there [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] I forgot luclin gave us ANY spells pre-50.

[Mead]

Permafrost can be pretty annoying for all levels

[Izmael]

Originally Posted by Mead [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Permafrost can be pretty annoying for all levels

95% of the annoyance being actually running there.

[mickmoranis]

Im bumping this thread, I agree hardest zone for evenly geared players is definitly HS I dont think its any contest.

[86753o9]

Has anyone mention Befallen? It is more of a death trap than MM or unrest imo.

[SyanideGas]

HS & Sebilis in my opinion.
More so HS - harm touches hurt, including a bunch of other oopsies that could go wrong. CR's with no rogue in sight? No fun