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Old 05-30-2017, 06:40 AM
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Especially since things like that can so easily be tested... Simplest possible test that has been done many, many times would be to take a halfling and an ogre with same haste %, str(attack) and weapons fight the same mob and parse their damage output (while not tanking), this should yield a similar value and thus 'proving' that there are no 'hidden' modifiers.
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Old 05-30-2017, 11:08 AM
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I mean I get how this misconception could exist. Ogre starting strength is very stout which may lead the uninformed to just feel that Ogres (with their higher str and thus attack) are innately better. This isn't a 'hidden stat' though - it's right there in plain sight and ultimately negated in that at high levels with good buffs any race can and WILL cap their str to 255.

Racial difference are clearly defined.

For shadowknights,

Ogres have insane starting str/stam, slam, and FSI
Troll have good starting str/stam, slam, and regen
Iksars have bad starting stats, regen, ac bonus, and smaller size
Humans have medium starting stats and no xp penalty
Dark elves have bad starting stats, sexy factor, ultravision, and no xp penalty
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Old 05-30-2017, 03:48 PM
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my ogre sk easily had 255 str unbuffed in kunark gear, its probably the easiest stat to get on gear as an SK

The only reason to ever pick ogre over troll is for FSI and the only reason to pick any other race besides those two is for personal preference/fashionquest

When I made my SK guises were still available so i went ogre for FSI + still not having to deal with size issues, plus the high base stats were great to have in classic. If you made me pick between ogre/troll without the possibility of a guise I would probably go troll.
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Old 05-31-2017, 01:13 PM
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Having played a troll SK on red and an ogre on blue, I would still point out that FSI is the most OP racial trait in the game, and anyone who argues otherwise just straight doesn't know what they're talking about.

Regen doesn't matter unless you plan to achieve the dream of soloing some lguk names and sit there regenerating for couple minutes less.

If you can pick Ogre, go Ogre. Applies to all the class choices that can do so.
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Old 06-01-2017, 05:32 PM
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Having played a troll SK on red and an ogre on blue, I would still point out that FSI is the most OP racial trait in the game, and anyone who argues otherwise just straight doesn't know what they're talking about.

Regen doesn't matter unless you plan to achieve the dream of soloing some lguk names and sit there regenerating for couple minutes less.

If you can pick Ogre, go Ogre. Applies to all the class choices that can do so.
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Old 06-03-2017, 01:50 AM
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Ogres can't worship Bertoxxulous, they are irrelevant!
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Old 06-05-2017, 01:52 AM
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My final character I have planned to make down the line is/was a Female Dark Elf SK. The problem is that I always wanted to roleplay a lipstick lesbian black knight who cleaves people in half and eats their souls.. but if I do that I won't have front stun immunity or regen.

Its a tough call man. What you guys think I should do?
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:28 AM
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So how do people rate Erud SK?

I often see comments on how velious gear and buffs really rains down the melee stats, making them trivially capped...

Eruds are well sized, and also get to trade 5 near useless disease resist for 5 delicious, delicious magic resist!

Also Eruds look like BAMFs, and open Blade roleplay opportunities.
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Old 06-05-2017, 04:44 AM
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I rate whatever race a person prefers the look of to be the best choice.
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Old 06-05-2017, 07:37 AM
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I started a ogre SK last week and the main reason i went ogre.. FSI.... and i have whined about the size and having to duck to get through neriak. and not see mobs i am fighting. And other SK's have reminded me that if i re-roll, the first time i got stunned i would lose my mind.. and they are right [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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