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Old 10-31-2016, 10:39 AM
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I was a tunnelquester and I guarantee that p99auctions helped me a huge lot.

It was a great way to know exactly how much and which information about a trade a particular casual had, and work with that to your advantage.
What incentive would a tunnelquester have to say that the p99 auction site being down now helps them? None, thus I ain't buying the BS you're peddling.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:46 AM
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What incentive would a tunnelquester have to say that the p99 auction site being down now helps them? None, thus I ain't buying the BS you're peddling.
Someone earlier on said it was a great day for me and a sad day for everyone else, implying that I did, in fact, attack p99auctions.com, which obviously triggered me.

Not sure of the point you're trying to make but I'm sure you're going to clarify it.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:56 AM
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Someone earlier on said it was a great day for me and a sad day for everyone else, implying that I did, in fact, attack p99auctions.com, which obviously triggered me.

Not sure of the point you're trying to make but I'm sure you're going to clarify it.
The point I'm trying to make is that tunnelquesters live off differing levels of information, hoping that they have knowledge that others don't. It would be in their interest to disseminate false information (that the p99 site now being down hurts their chances of successfully tunnelquesting, when in fact it helps them.) Would you believe a used car salesman telling you "i'm not really making money off this car, I can't sell it any cheaper?"

As far as the ddos attacks, I wouldn't ever make baseless accusations without any kind of proof for something as major as that, it could have been you, greengrocer, rogean, nilbog, obama, whoever. Any other suspicions I have about you or other posters in this thread I'll keep to myself.
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Old 10-31-2016, 12:02 PM
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Someone earlier on said it was a great day for me and a sad day for everyone else, implying that I did, in fact, attack p99auctions.com, which obviously triggered me.

Not sure of the point you're trying to make but I'm sure you're going to clarify it.
Just some guy making a joke using broken logic, implying that now that the honest,true prices won't be available via P99 auctions, you will make even more plats in the ec tunnel. NM it. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:44 AM
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Could people skew auctions by auctioning fake prices? Yeah, but from what I saw this wasn't too common. Even so, it would skew the avg price but I'd usually just look for the lowest price that someone was WTS at (If Canni IV had an avg price of 22k, but you saw auctions at 14k and up to 27k...you can figure out what's happening.)
Creating margin isnt just about inflating prices ^^
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:45 AM
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Creating margin is t just about inflating prices ^^
But you can do the same kind of smell test with prices that are too low. Again, it's just information that is lost, and it's felt especially hard by those who don't spend all day in the tunnel.
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:49 AM
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But you can do the same kind of smell test with prices that are too low. Again, it's just information that is lost, and it's felt especially hard by those who don't spend all day in the tunnel.
Hmmm, so you are saying that if most of the prices are in a certain range, it is reasonable to throw out the outliers? Well it is a good thing a single person couldn't establish a desired average price by posting a single line of /auction from a few different characters... Oh wait ^^
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Old 10-31-2016, 10:58 AM
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Hmmm, so you are saying that if most of the prices are in a certain range, it is reasonable to throw out the outliers? Well it is a good thing a single person couldn't establish a desired average price by posting a single line of /auction from a few different characters... Oh wait ^^
Lol...like they can't do that without the auction site? At least with the auction site you could go back several weeks. You can have people do that over the course of minutes to lull people into false prices. Heck there are probably ec bots who have multiple characters logged in at the same time advertising false prices, and probably forum handles belonging to the same person doing the same thing. This wasn't something unique to the auction site.
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Old 10-31-2016, 11:03 AM
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You have a perfectly valid opinion that tunnelquesters live off differing levels of information.

I have another opinion - tunnelquesters can live of that, and other things. Some of these other things are more important than differing levels of information.

For example, being in a hurry. You make money off someone who knows the price of their item, but wants to sell quick and get out of EC. They take a hit to save time. You buy cheap.

You make money off someone who wants an item really bad and you're the only one selling and they want it fast. Thy pay a premium to save time. You sell high.

My whole tunnelquesting career - 4 months - was with p99auctions being widely known and used by everyone. Had no problem making money.
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Old 10-31-2016, 11:06 AM
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You have a perfectly valid opinion that tunnelquesters live off differing levels of information.

I have another opinion - tunnelquesters can live of that, and other things. Some of these other things are more important than differing levels of information.

For example, being in a hurry. You make money off someone who knows the price of their item, but wants to sell quick and get out of EC. They take a hit to save time. You buy cheap.

You make money off someone who wants an item really bad and you're the only one selling and they want it fast. Thy pay a premium to save time. You sell high.

My whole tunnelquesting career - 4 months - was with p99auctions being widely known and used by everyone. Had no problem making money.
So now that p99 auctions is down, people will no longer be in a hurry to sell stuff?
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