Why is Sceptre of Desctruction so overpriced ?

[Freakish]

Everyone who has a SoD disagrees with that statement about plat. Or you would see one for sale.

[Alanus]

20 million plat seems like a lot, but it's also the (arguably) best warrior 1h that will ever drop on this server.

[schnickusaurus]

Of course you are right there m8, not all is for sale. But remember the core raiders obtaining that gear is investing a serious amount of RL time in it.
And is that worth it?
But even if some think it is worth it, we still come to the prime critique of SoD holders:

SoD usefulness is so weak i just cant see why you wouldnt take 10 mil plat
Anything of the below is probably more than 3 times as useful:
Fungi+CoF
Manastone
Lockets of Escape and Puppet strings (plat income if you sell charges/binds)
High end gear (white dragon helm, vindi bp loot right, tov loot right, Statue/AoW/KT droppables, tov MQd class loot, haste song mask clicky loot rights, jboots MQ, Levi Cloak loot right)

All this is game breaking, compared to the 'uber aggro' of a SoD

Usefulness is a Word often used in guild loot policy.
Why shouldnt it be used in this discussion ?

If you compare the plat a SoD can give, and what you can use that plat for, the aggro argument of a SoD becomes Weak

There is just one thing that makes me see some form of logic in SoD holders:
If the person owning a SoD is already a CoF/fungi/hard core raider/Levi Cloak jboots etc then ofc they should keep the SoD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but that still means SoD is relatively useless and it makes no sense for any casual to buy the weap. The only possible buyer would be someone else who has all this stuff already (and lots of plat) and who likes to hold a SoD (for no real useful reason whatsoever?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

[Spyder73]

Originally Posted by schnickusaurus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is just one thing that makes me see some form of logic in SoD holders:
If the person owning a SoD is already a CoF/fungi/hard core raider/Levi Cloak jboots etc then ofc they should keep the SoD [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] but that still means SoD is relatively useless and it makes no sense for any casual to buy the weap. The only possible buyer would be someone else who has all this stuff already (and lots of plat) and who likes to hold a SoD (for no real useful reason whatsoever?[You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.] )

The 12 SoD on the server belong only to the thickest of neckbeards who already have hundreds of thousands of plat at minimum. There is no "if" the person owning this item already has a fungi/Cof - they are in full nToV raid gear brah or they wouldn't have Sleepers keys since its dominated by 2 guilds.

I dont think anyone has ever made the argument that a casual player would be capable of buying a SoD on this server...

[fadetree]

Just using a SoD? maybe 100k.
Having one when you don't? Priceless.

[schnickusaurus]

Its actually not priceless, because you base only on what is today

Pricing is also forward looking

SoD is a technical problem to devs

They intend to release a server where SoD may well exist forever depending on how well people come to mutual agreement , then merge it with a server of awakened sleeper

You cant merge it then unless that problem is solved.

You cant take for granted the 12 amount supply of SoD
The day that assumption is broken, the day SoD 'priceless' will change into a meager 500k

Will see , will see.

[nectarprime]

Originally Posted by schnickusaurus [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Its actually not priceless, because you base only on what is today

Pricing is also forward looking

SoD is a technical problem to devs

They intend to release a server where SoD may well exist forever depending on how well people come to mutual agreement , then merge it with a server of awakened sleeper

You cant merge it then unless that problem is solved.

You cant take for granted the 12 amount supply of SoD
The day that assumption is broken, the day SoD 'priceless' will change into a meager 500k

Will see , will see.

are you drunk

[Cecily]

Don't take it too hard when you finally figure out plat is useless.

[Cecily]

Protip: Amassing a sizable fortune in platinum takes more time and effort than "hard core neckbearding", and gives you less to show for it.

Let's elaborate a bit! Take, for example, the A-team. While the server heroes like myself and others in TMO killed every raid boos and paid very little attention to EC tunnel, A-team platinum miners spent the majority of their time increasing their virtual (and in at least one case IRL) bank accounts. Despite this leading to many A-team members being individually wealthy, a pretty good joke at the time was A-team having epics. They simply couldn't afford them.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Protip: Amassing a sizable fortune in platinum takes more time and effort than "hard core neckbearding", and gives you less to show for it.

Let's elaborate a bit! Take, for example, the A-team. While the server heroes like myself and others in TMO killed every raid boos and paid very little attention to EC tunnel, A-team platinum miners spent the majority of their time increasing their virtual (and in at least one case IRL) bank accounts. Despite this leading to many A-team members being individually wealthy, a pretty good joke at the time was A-team having epics. They simply couldn't afford them.

Well, Zeelot TMO was mostly uncontested. You had warm bodies like Alarti with full PD gear for very little work. If there was ever a time to be a raider, that was it. And the whole 'a-team/epics' thing was mostly a Tiggles troll. But with the current scene, I don't think being a raider is such a win. Let's say I decide I want to buy a White Dragon Helm so I can get FTII boots on Loraen. What are my options?

A: Farmer. Spend about 150 hours at various cash camps and buy one for 750k. I can do it on my own schedule, do a pretty decent variety of content, and stay pretty engaged because when you do things in 2/3 man groups your performance and strategy matter.

B: Racer. Spend about 125 hours staring at the wall at 15 DKP/hour and buy one for 2000 DKP. I think you have to be pretty crazy to prefer this.

C: Warmbody. Join A/A and attend about 125 raids at 15 dkp per raid and 30 minutes per and buy one for 2000 DKP. Content is basically all the same (log in at LTK, press autoattack/backstab/complete heal). Marginal contribution to any given raid is zero in a raid of 80 members. Can't control your schedule. DKP flow is pretty slow unless you get up in the middle of the night.

Now, the big advantage of raiding is all the no-drops that will never be for sale. But otherwise, I don't think it's a huge win.