Trying to claim entire zone

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Think there's some dumbass rule that ur not allowed to camp on that isle in the water to farm fungi king on Blue. At least that's what I've been told. GM's will tell u to move if somebody reports u.

Ive heard of this but I dont understand where it originated from... anyone know? Also why is that a better spot? seems like camping near the zone out pad is safer anyway.

[Expediency]

Originally Posted by Smurflogik [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

FYI, standard camps in MM are:

Pond
Graveyard
Castle Entrance (CE)
Courtyard (CY)

There are more (pit, etc) but these are the most common. If somebody is holding more than one, I'm pretty sure it's fair game to ask them which one the want, and set up shop at another.

I feel like the Canyon, and to some extent the pit, are "right of way" areas and although someone can set up a camp there, they are asking for trouble when they do it. There is literally no way for the majority of players to get anywhere in MM without going through the canyon, and the mobs aggro you as you pass through. If the "canyon camp" isnt keeping all the mobs down the minute they spawn, you're "stealing" their mobs when you need to get through there, even though you had no other option. Plus, if someone has to train out, going through the canyon is the only option for most players. I operate as if the canyon is pretty much FFA for the pond and the graveyard.

[Danth]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

"You can only camp what you can see from 1 spot" is the dumbfuckest rule I've ever heard of in my entire life. I can't think of a single camp in EQ with enough mobs to satisfy a full group that you can get LoS on from a single spot. .

This describes classic EQ pretty accurately. Ever done Lower Guk or Nagafen's Lair or Sebilis when you have 100+ people in-zone trying to make experience? Oftentimes groups did just what you describe--fight the few that spawned in their local area then wait for respawns because everything else was already dead. The modern P1999 mindset where experience groups expect to have an interrupted supply of monsters to chain-pull all night long doesn't necessarily reflect how people played EQ back in 1999/2000.

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Canyon area in Mistmoore and Left Courtyard in Karnor's both suffer the problem of being typical camp areas that happen to be square in the path of traffic through their respective zones. Groups in such areas ought to accept a certain degree of elevated risk and nuisance.

Danth

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Expediency [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ive heard of this but I dont understand where it originated from... anyone know? Also why is that a better spot? seems like camping near the zone out pad is safer anyway.

Zone out pad has 3-4 (I forget?) spawns in the room. Lil island in the water has 0 spawns and nothing in aggro range. Can 100% AFK between spawns and be safe unless someone trains you. Makes it super easy to AFK / Pull PH / AFK and I guess staff doesn't want that? Idk

[pickled_heretic]

Originally Posted by Danth [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This describes classic EQ pretty accurately. Ever done Lower Guk or Nagafen's Lair or Sebilis when you have 100+ people in-zone trying to make experience? Oftentimes groups did just what you describe--fight the few that spawned in their local area then wait for respawns because everything else was already dead. The modern P1999 mindset where experience groups expect to have an interrupted supply of monsters to chain-pull all night long doesn't necessarily reflect how people played EQ back in 1999/2000.

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Canyon area in Mistmoore and Left Courtyard in Karnor's both suffer the problem of being typical camp areas that happen to be square in the path of traffic through their respective zones. Groups in such areas ought to accept a certain degree of elevated risk and nuisance.

Danth

Kinda my thoughts as well. Gukbottom and sola/b were so heavily camped that you could pretty much walk anywhere in the regular exp spots and never see a mob. The 'camps' in p99 are a lot bigger than they were on live back in the day.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by pickled_heretic [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Kinda my thoughts as well. Gukbottom and sola/b were so heavily camped that you could pretty much walk anywhere in the regular exp spots and never see a mob. The 'camps' in p99 are a lot bigger than they were on live back in the day.

1999 can keep its crappy camps imo. If I had to kill the same 4 mobs and wait for them to repop all day with a full grp I think I'd kill myself.

[Pokesan]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1999 can keep its crappy camps imo. If I had to kill the same 4 mobs and wait for them to repop all day with a full grp I think I'd kill myself.

nilbog pls

[Zekayy]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

1999 can keep its crappy camps imo. If I had to kill the same 4 mobs and wait for them to repop all day with a full grp I think I'd kill myself.

You are doing the exact, samehing on phinny.

[jcr4990]

When I say 1999 I'm referring to the year not the server. Not even P99 has groups of people killing 3-4 mobs in a room and waiting on repops. All of you should be extremely grateful that the "You can only camp what you can see" rule isn't enforced.

[jcr4990]

Originally Posted by Zekayy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You are doing the exact, samehing on phinny.

dafuq are you talking about?