Bard in Dreadlands

[DMN]

You' d have to connect that T1 line directly to verant's server cluster to avoid the vagaries of the internet. High ping was usually not the problem, within reason, but the massive lag spikesthat lasted several scond or more. These were very frequent in the first coule years of EQ's existence. And it would only take one time happening at a bad time to wipe out hours of hard work... Which is why people played it safe, and no bards mass kited, while only the ballsiest druids quad kited and generally only light blues.

Even that direct T1 line (which didn't exist unless you workd for verant) still wouldn't solve verant's server issues or poor graphic cards/driver optimization.

[Rummol]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which is why people played it safe, and no bards mass kited, while only the ballsiest druids quad kited and generally only light blues.

Pure nonsense...I quad kited on a wizard pre-kunark and many others did too

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Rummol [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Pure nonsense...I quad kited on a wizard pre-kunark and many others did too

maybe you had cleric friend to make up the deaths you would've been routinely subject to. Wizards have less HP, wear toilet paper, usually have crap defense skill since they avoid getting hit at all costs, and will generally be working with Jboots back then. That makes the window of survival that much smaller for any lag spike. You can probably tell your fairytales to your fiends, but not to someone that was actually playing then. We will throw that right in the BS bin.

[Malik_Gynax]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe you had cleric friend to make up the deaths you would've been routinely subject to. Wizards have less HP, wear toilet paper, usually have crap defense skill since they avoid getting hit at all costs, and will generally be working with Jboots back then. That makes the window of survival that much smaller for any lag spike. You can probably tell your fairytales to your fiends, but not to someone that was actually playing then. We will throw that right in the BS bin.

I guess you know everything about how every player played classic.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Malik_Gynax [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guess you know everything about how every player played classic.

I know enough., bard delusions notwithstanding.

[Silencia]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe you had cleric friend to make up the deaths you would've been routinely subject to. Wizards have less HP, wear toilet paper, usually have crap defense skill since they avoid getting hit at all costs, and will generally be working with Jboots back then. That makes the window of survival that much smaller for any lag spike. You can probably tell your fairytales to your fiends, but not to someone that was actually playing then. We will throw that right in the BS bin.

You talk about dying a LOT to various situations. Have you considered that maybe you were/are just terrible?

Seriously, wouldn't you find it odd that quad kiting / pbae spells existed if people were unable to do such a thing? I can't tell if you're trolling.

Submited by: Galuvian On: 1/17/2001 3:06:16 AM

At level 9 I could Kite THREE YELLOW wisps with this song as the only thing doing damage. Great song once you learn to use it effectively and twist with Selo's and Heal.

Galuvian
13th Verse
Drinal

Weird, this guy had no issue either as a level 9 bard back in 2001. He must be delusional too, right?

[Neno]

Swarm kiting wasn't really a thing on this server until several months in. My bard was created day 1 and was one of the first lvl 50 bards on the server. Most of us knew the strat from our time on live but I can't think of 1 bard that didn't level up through grouping during that time. We all knew charm kiting was a bust and for whatever reason aoe kiting just wasn't a thing here. I think it was Jete who made the post on how to do it on p99 after playing around with it for awhile but he was already lvl 50. It just didn't exist here at the start for some reason that I can no longer remember.

[DMN]

Originally Posted by Silencia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You talk about dying a LOT to various situations. Have you considered that maybe you were/are just terrible?

You talk a LOT about bards. Have you considered you hardly seem to be an unbiased observer? And ya I'm/was terrible. Running in circles is way too hard for me, man.

Originally Posted by Silencia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Seriously, wouldn't you find it odd that quad kiting / pbae spells existed if people were unable to do such a thing? I can't tell if you're trolling.

Speaking of trolling, is this like the third time you've claimed I said something I never said? Not sure, but it's getting quite tiresome nonetheless.

Originally Posted by Silencia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Weird, this guy had no issue either as a level 9 bard back in 2001. He must be delusional too, right?

Wow, 2 years after release bards find they can kill 3 mobs at the same time.That's totally the same as swarm kiting dozens of mobs. wher is the follow up post of " yo man, that's nothing I was kiting 15 aviaks in SK) The post you present is actually good evidence swarm kiting wasn't viable in 2001. The same year this server is locked in, I might add. Thanks for supporting my argument with contemporary evidence,though.

[gummab]

Originally Posted by DMN [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

maybe you had cleric friend to make up the deaths you would've been routinely subject to. Wizards have less HP, wear toilet paper, usually have crap defense skill since they avoid getting hit at all costs, and will generally be working with Jboots back then. That makes the window of survival that much smaller for any lag spike. You can probably tell your fairytales to your fiends, but not to someone that was actually playing then. We will throw that right in the BS bin.

Are you talking pre-2000?

I quadded all the time 2000 onwards on my druid,and died 0 times due to lag spikes,I LD death a few but thats about it.

[Sadre Spinegnawer]

The main issue was routers centered around Kansas City. Most of the East Coast US trafficwent through KC. Those routers sucked ass, and so you learned pretty quickly to play it safe. For West Coast people, this was less if an issue but you still had the routers for San Diego.

Keep in mind, most of the code for this network was written in Fortran, and eq seriously stressed any Fortran-based intranet. I worked the backbone in KC. I know what I'm talking about.