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[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by jcr4990 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Really is kind of crazy when you stop and think about it. None of these dragons were intended to be killed without clearing the trash leading up to them. If they wanted you to skip everything they wouldn't have put see invis mobs in the way. ToV should take HOURS to clear. Instead every dragon dies in less than 5 minutes cause everyone basically exploits game mechanics to bypass playing the game the way it was designed to be played. I don't know about you guys servers but my classic server fought dragons on or very near their spawn point every time.

Just another way this server isn't classic I guess. Meanwhile OMG GET RID OF BUFF TIMERS NOT CLASSIC.

I think you mean "uses". Nobody here established the game mechanics 17 years ago. We are just using the constraints of what exists. Ever heard the phrase, work smarter, not harder?

[bktroost]

Originally Posted by bspa0700 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think you mean "uses". Nobody here established the game mechanics 17 years ago. We are just using the constraints of what exists. Ever heard the phrase, work smarter, not harder?

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

[Maner]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

Wouldn't clearing to it and killing it be the work and then the "getting something awesome" be the pay check even in your own analogy?

If you can play smarter, and cut that work down to a bare minimum to get the same pay check, why wouldn't you?

[bspa0700]

Originally Posted by bktroost [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Which it's true if it's work. But it's not. It's the paycheck. Clearing to the mob, killing it and getting something awesome is the actual paycheck. Not just the "something awesome."

It's like wanting some roses and speeding through rose bushes in order to get to the flower shop.

Literally nothing you said makes any sense.

All I was saying is that pulling the way that we do is not exploiting. It's not close to exploiting. It's not glitching. It's not taking advantage of bad pathing. It's using established, working as intended game mechanics. Nobody is sitting here saying that someone else is exploiting see invis to see people who are invis.

[zanderklocke]

Originally Posted by Skew [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If thats your idea of "dungeon crawling" in ToV , just gtfo and do everyone else , and yourselves , a favour.
On the latest progression server i do believe there are instances. Check it out.

Why do you put spaces on both sides of commas?

[Legday]

ToV is designed like shit for multiple guilds trying to kill in north unless everybody is train pulling. CSG and the like are uninterested in that style of pulling and you can't really blame them.

But that doesn't change the fact that if you have 1 playstyle and pullstyle (train pulling) versus another playstyle/pullstyle(clearing) it's never going to work. The zone isn't meant to handle it.

Nothing to see here. Petitions/qq/etc. from both sides inc until the end of (p1999) time.

[khanable]

what's with the euro on euro hostility

sounds like ya'll need some democratic liberation

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[Skew]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

what's with the euro on euro hostility

sounds like ya'll need some democratic liberation

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Brexit2016

[Loke]

Bring back no-CSR raid rules. No rules VP was some of the most fun I had on this server even though TMO was smoking us 90% of the time. No rules ToV would be glorious chaos.

[Swish]

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