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Old 04-05-2016, 10:39 AM
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As Haynar explained, though, if someone has an unattended computer logged in and tracking, if someone else connects to that computer and also has EverQuest running on an FTEer, that constitutes two boxing. Which is already against the rules. Using a remote desktop sharing application to circumvent IP exemptions is not anything new.

Chest is right and the rest of you are rules lawyering no-lifers.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:40 AM
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He's brought it up before as the old Rampage/IB strat, but I've refused to implement it mostly because I felt it was grimy and also because I assumed it was tantamount to 2-boxing. So I think you're wrong.
You don't get off the line first against screen sharers unless you're doing the same thing.

Don't be intentionally dense to promote your agenda.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:40 AM
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go back 2 phinny fuckboi
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:40 AM
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Where's the bias? I want to experience classic Everquest just like you. So if someone isn't in Awakened or Aftermath, when should that guild get to experience Velious content? I'm not trying to be snarky, it's a legitimate question. If your answer is "croot and contest" then there isn't much else of a conversation to have right?

You're playing the game your ways, and you're doing so because it's always an arms race, both of the top two guilds are constantly pushing each other. The result is it sets the standard for everyone else. Now I get to tell my raiders what new crap we have to do in order to compete, which forces CSG to adopt them, and then Anon/Div, and then whomever else. We either adapt and try or just give up on that content where we can't/won't employ those strats, or just quit the server.

So back to my question, when does everyone else get to experience some velious content, because right now Phinny is sounding like a goddamn paradise compared to the extremes we're going to now.
Nobody got a free and easy walk into the high end content that was VP, during the kunark era of this server. Why would the high end content of NTOV be treated differently? Is it the lack of key requirements or easy to get out of it make it special?
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:42 AM
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You don't get off the line first against screen sharers unless you're doing the same thing.

Don't be intentionally dense to promote your agenda.
Arms race.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:43 AM
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Nobody got a free and easy walk into the high end content that was VP, during the kunark era of this server. Why would the high end content of NTOV be treated differently? Is it the lack of key requirements or easy to get out of it make it special?
So your argument is "it's always been like this, croot and contest" so we don't need to discuss it any further, got it.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:50 AM
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Where's the bias? I want to experience classic Everquest just like you. So if someone isn't in Awakened or Aftermath, when should that guild get to experience Velious content? I'm not trying to be snarky, it's a legitimate question. If your answer is "croot and contest" then there isn't much else of a conversation to have right?

You're playing the game your ways, and you're doing so because it's always an arms race, both of the top two guilds are constantly pushing each other. The result is it sets the standard for everyone else. Now I get to tell my raiders what new crap we have to do in order to compete, which forces CSG to adopt them, and then Anon/Div, and then whomever else. We either adapt and try or just give up on that content where we can't/won't employ those strats, or just quit the server.

So back to my question, when does everyone else get to experience some velious content, because right now Phinny is sounding like a goddamn paradise compared to the extremes we're going to now.
Your bias is where you directly call out Aftermath as a guild that knowingly uses illegal tactics. It's an incorrect opinion and it shapes the way casual players on this server view our guild. Have you ever been falsely accused of anything? It's not the greatest thing.

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As Haynar explained, though, if someone has an unattended computer logged in and tracking, if someone else connects to that computer and also has EverQuest running on an FTEer, that constitutes two boxing. Which is already against the rules. Using a remote desktop sharing application to circumvent IP exemptions is not anything new.

Chest is right and the rest of you are rules lawyering no-lifers.
I've been a part of many screen shares, on both the sharing side and the watching side, and I can say with the exception of the screen sharer getting up to use the bathroom, the screen always has a real live player behind it ready to call the pop. If you look at both of Haynar's posts he does say it is only tantamount to two boxing if there is nobody playing that character. That's not the case here. Let's move along.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:53 AM
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The "we play this game too, so we deserve some dragons" argument is so tired. Just go to Phinny, instances seem right up your alley.
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:53 AM
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Old 04-05-2016, 10:56 AM
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I'm sure nobody knows how to remote desktop or install free teamviewer.
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