Bernie Sanders is a bad ass

[Kyff]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need a nordic model government. Homogeneous population and socialism.

T.V. is the reason why less than ten percent of our Nation reads books daily
Why most people think Central America means Kansas
Socialism means unamerican
and Apartheid is a new headache remedy.

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by Filthy_Pagan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

We need a nordic model government. Homogeneous population and socialism.

Two questions on this:

1) Do you think any homogeneous population works? Or does it have to be white only? If it could be any old race, where are all the examples of effective black/brown socialist societies?

2) How do you propose we reach this state of homogeneity, given our current diverse population?

[One Tin Soldier]

Haven't you people figured out yet that you will never change each others minds about politics?

It doesn't matter anyway. America is doomed. The federal government is heading for bankruptcy and it's already almost too late to stop it. By the time the political will exists to actually try to stop it, it will be too late.

I looked into a crystal ball one night and this is what I saw: Our government borrowing ever increasing amounts of money, not only to pay for internal expenses but also to pay the interest on the debt they already have (this is already happening). As debt increases the interest payments increase. The government borrows more money. The debt increases more. The interest payments increase more. The government and the people who elect our worthy leaders don't have the stomach to reduce government spending.

The downward spiral gets steeper and faster until finally our government is unable to make it's interest payments. At this point nobody will loan them any more money because who would be insane enough to do so? No country is big enough to bail us out or would even if they could. In a desperate attempt to do something the government begins printing more money...lots more...trillions more. The value of the dollar drops to nothing. The economy is destroyed. Chaos reigns.

The United States breaks apart.

At this point things became murky. Perhaps the south and the central states split away to form the new confederacy. The north east becomes a Socialist dictatorship thus ensuring it's third world status. The west coast sees the rise of the lunatics who ban eating animal products, ban modern farming practices for the ideal of fully organic farming, and ban the use of fossil fuels. As a result millions starve to death sitting in their candle lit hovels and haven't even the means to flee as they have no fuel to put in their cars.

I have spoken. Thus it was revealed to me and thus it shall be!

[am0n]

Originally Posted by One Tin Soldier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I have spoken. Thus it was revealed to me and thus it shall be!

This guy didn't drink the coolaid, he put it into a bag and injected it straight into his vein.

[maskedmelon]

Hah! Three words pal:

Special Drawing Rights


Checkmate logic!

[Orruar]

Originally Posted by One Tin Soldier [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Haven't you people figured out yet that you will never change each others minds about politics?

Maybe it's less about convincing other people than it is about learning to better articulate and hone our own beliefs.

[One Tin Soldier]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it's less about convincing other people than it is about learning to better articulate and hone our own beliefs.

I can accept that but it doesn't explain why I started posting in this thread.

[maskedmelon]

Originally Posted by Orruar [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Maybe it's less about convincing other people than it is about learning to better articulate and hone our own beliefs.

Absolutely, and there is no better path to understanding than exploring other perspectives. I refine my views regularly, but the principles behind them do not change and I would expect the same to be true for other rational human beings. Those principles are:

1. Be not a nuisance
2. Behave responsibly

The principles directly reflect what I value most in my life: peace. I hate fighting and generally just want to be left alone. At the same time I hold reason and skepticism (eww an -ism, I know) in high regard since it is those qualities, the exceptional ability to consider and act outside of primal impulse that distinguishes man from most other creatures.

Differing principles allow for divergent conclusions given the same data even among comparable intellects. Unfortunately we can almost always find contradictory data sets, each created to validate the views of their collectors and since none of the rest of us have the time to conduct the research first-hand, we are generally inclined to choose the data that supports our world view. So we are left with people arguing from two entirely different worlds, often reluctant to understand or even view another world for fear that their own might be a farce. An open mind is an extraordinary rarity and is something most people are incapable of despite the low bar of admission.

At the end of the day I am mostly interested in learning how people make the decisions they do.

[James_Joyce]

The US military, student loans, and academic scholarship already provide every leg up a motivated individual requires to succeed in USA if he works on a marketable skillset. I have more than one friend from an utterly destitute family who went to my rather expensive school on loan/scholarship combination with zero dollars from parentals and now makes over $100k in their 20s. The idea that the American system is stacked against those who try is insane; only subsidizing failure and income from interest can stack the deck in favor of losers, against winners.

If you can't make straight A's throughout high school and are unwilling to take any of the other options available to you, you deserve to fail. I don't really feel for kids who have a fucked up family situation unless we're talking about overt abuse and prevention from doing your dues, which does happen I will admit. Nevertheless, if you require guidance to seek your own happiness, go and suffer.

I lived alone in a house throughout the entirety of high school yet had two no-show jobs throughout, graduated valedictorian while only attending about 50% of classes thanks to some scams I was running with fake minutes to fake student government meetings, and with $20k in the bank and a full scholarship to a reasonably prestigious university. At some point I went from unapproachable nerd in shabby clothes to rock star in fine self-bought raiment having my dick sucked by the girl I beat out for valedict, after she got done sobbing about being defeated. The only leg up I had is a couple of not terribly intelligent parents who got me turned on to reading at a young age so I wouldnt turn out like them, and then left me alone after age 5. Life is fucking easy, and fun as shit too if you're willing to see it for what it is and bend the rules to your will instead of clinging to some servile sense of morality. If not, go drown in your own shit slave.

Same goes for the terminally unemployed. Is everything on your resume 100% legit? Either you're such a badass that that is plenty convincing, or you're doing it wrong.

I'll concede that college education is stupidly expensive in the US and student loans too easy to get in too large an amount for too stupid/lazy a person, which needs to be addressed. It's sick that we try to pull minors into interest slavery when they are still too young to understand the full consequences.

Consider that perhaps the heritable cases of poverty are the descendents of oarsmen with shit genetics who haven't been subject to natural selection for too many generations, and should be sterilized in favor of those willing and able to use available options to rise above their birth circumstances.

[iruinedyourday]

Originally Posted by James_Joyce [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The US military, student loans, and academic scholarship already provide every leg up a motivated individual requires to succeed in USA if he works on a marketable skillset.

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