Big Thanks to Cloki from Omni

[Fire Beetle]

If you can't read between the lines don't bother reading at all.

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by ArumTP [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This was wanted as nobody wanted a laggy/trainny mess of a zone. The tentative agreement was to get your uncontested dain, kill 2 warlords. Nobody is intentionally failing the war, and getting to kill warlords IS putting legitimate work into it. This is the final content that a clearly a bunch of us want to beat.

BDA's argument is we failed at ringwar therefore nobody should do it. But again it never stopped them from showing up from the first ringwar failed dain spawn. They have only taken this stance after the fact that they wont be able to contest a dain from FAT/Rampage in a FFA scenario, or possibly kill 2 warlords.

The fuck you high on?no one agreed

[Sweettouch]

Originally Posted by Fire Beetle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Don't try to understand their rational.

A few months ago Chest wrote a post outlining what was the current state of affairs in the raid scene on P99. And his post was spot on. It was before the FAT alliance; when Taken/Asgard/BDA where all predominately going for VP and Rampage was left alone to own all of NToV while Forsaken was struggling to get any raid mobs. At this point you didn't see any guild with ruffled jimmies.

But now, since the tides turned and guilds realigned, you see BDA, who has been left out due to the manner of which they handle themselves, complain of unfairness and undermine the server with ludicrous posts in RnF.

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Good ol' Detoxx,letting mentally challenge people earn dkp by shitposting

[ArumTP]

Originally Posted by Sweettouch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fuck you high on?no one agreed

Well, not your guild

[Vianna]

Let's just get back to comparing Cloki's post to reality for a second because I think this was missed...

Cloki's post.

Originally Posted by Cloki [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The ringwar may indeed be winnable. But so far the server is 0-fer on it. Winnable and tuned properly are two different things. Don't conflate them.

There's an easy answer to this: Fix the fucking Dain bug.

Fix the fucking ring war.

Don't exploit broken stuff.

The ring war is a jewel in the crown of velious. A really, really neat event that should have been completed many, many times in more than 4 months of velious. We're all better players, better geared, and better mechanically than we were on live. And we were doing it 4 months in with ~40 people on Druzzil.

It's broken. Fix it. But don't try to game what's broken for loot.

(if the staff is unable or unwilling to fix the Dain bug, it should be an easy thing to DT the should-not-have-been-spawned Dain...)

Now Reality...

Originally Posted by Ternada [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Originally Posted by Ternada View Post
Oct 29 2001 at 2:14 PMRating: Good
Ternada
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We completed the 10th Ring War for the first time on Druzzil Saturday, and it was a total blast. Some things to keep in mind:

- The giants are *NOT* kitable anymore. Their follow range was changed to basically melee range, so if you aren't directly engaged with a giant it will ignore you and beeline for Thurg.

- Two lines of Kromrif Spearmen will spawn. One not far East of the River in sight of the wurm caves, one farther West, towards the portal. These have a nasty ranged attack, but do not move. It is important to never TOUCH these, as if damaged, they'll start summoning EVERYONE to their deaths.

- The giants will spawn in three places: At the Wizard spires near EW zone (group of 6), South of the river (group of 10+leader), and West of the western Spearmen line (group of 10+leader).

- When Narandi spawns, he will be near the wurm cave, and will make a break in the direction of the EW zone. If he is allowed to despawn, the War is a draw. He FLURRIES, so every available person needs to get to him ASAP.

Notice the date of that post. October 29th, 2011 was the first time it was completed on Druzzil. December 5th 2000 was the release date of Velious. Yet he claimed 40 did it 4 months in. I mean no offense, but the guy you are praising straight up lied.

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Show me the post where BDA says it's unfair. BDA and Omni are just calling an exploit an exploit and neither guild wants to exploit a bug.

But, since the mods don't seem to care, go on with the rhetoric.

Neither guild wants to exploit a bug after exploiting a bug and failing, you mean?

[Detoxx]

Originally Posted by Ravager [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If it's not to exploit Dains would the guilds attempting ring wars agree not to kill Dains until the bug is patched?

As i said in the other thread, if no one kills the Dain, then that Dain will remain up until next server downtime

[Detoxx]

Also, its insane the amount of inflammation going on here. You all make it seem like Dains are spawning left and right. We did 2 in a row simply because we got incredibly close and had a new strat we wanted to try. Haven't done one since.

[Ravager]

Originally Posted by Fire Beetle [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you can't read between the lines don't bother reading at all.

And if you have nothing truthful to say, don't bother posting at all.

[Freakish]

I honestly think the next guild to attempt the war will kill it.