Play Nice Policy Doesnt Apply to Bards Making Money

[Stormfists]

99% of the time fraps is deemed as inconclussive outside of raid training.

Just gotta accept it.

[Monty405]

Originally Posted by Stormfists [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

99% of the time fraps is deemed as inconclussive outside of raid training.

Just gotta accept it.

You know what to do.

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[Aburamushi]

I had some troubles last week in OT. Was trying to get my OT hammer before going to KC and ruin my outpost faction, at lvl 38 it was nice exp tho [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So was trying to kill sarnaks berserkers. Most of the time I couldn't find a mob, because some bards were tagging all the mobs (besides the tigers, they run as fast as sow), from Skyfire ramp to FM zoneline, in 30min I would only kill 2 berserkers...

Asked in ooc channel if they could leave some the berserkers alone, so I could do my faction grind. Most of the time they didn't care. BUT 2 bards were nice, and let me loot the braids. In the end, finished my faction grind faster.

So ask politely if they can swarm elsewhere or leave enough mobs for everyone. If they don't care, just /petition.

Or if they are rude: as a shaman, pull from their pack a rhino and cockatrice. charm it, cast sow on it. log off...

[Ahtex]

Originally Posted by Aburamushi [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

charm it, cast sow on it. log off...

This isn't actually very effective, as a bard when people charm stuff I'm pulling I then have to kite the sowed mob charming it and sending it into the pack to die. Just means it takes me longer to kill my mobs, and therefore people that might be hunting the same mobs I'm pulling have their mobs tied up longer.

[ECDubz]

Originally Posted by Ahtex [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't actually very effective, as a bard when people charm stuff I'm pulling I then have to kite the sowed mob charming it and sending it into the pack to die. Just means it takes me longer to kill my mobs, and therefore people that might be hunting the same mobs I'm pulling have their mobs tied up longer.

Also, bards can negate sow using one of their songs. Its how to pull casters / friendlies of casters that get sow while roaming for PLing.

Edit: I think its rediculous the amount of hate bards get just for being a bard. I take strides to ensure that I go around groups and avoid areas and to make sure im not disrupting play and I still am met with hate on both the forums and in game. Its crazy because THATS the thanks i get for trying to help people and not be like the idiots that play bards for a power trip.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by ECDubz [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Also, bards can negate sow using one of their songs. Its how to pull casters / friendlies of casters that get sow while roaming for PLing.

Edit: I think its rediculous the amount of hate bards get just for being a bard. I take strides to ensure that I go around groups and avoid areas and to make sure im not disrupting play and I still am met with hate on both the forums and in game. Its crazy because THATS the thanks i get for trying to help people and not be like the idiots that play bards for a power trip.

Yeah....but no. If you are making people mad in game while swarming, you are either taking their mobs or training them. People don't just do a /who and start complaining about bards for no reason.

On top of that you are lvl 60, the only reason you would swarm anything is to sell PLs. Whats worse than a bard stealing all your mobs? A bard stealing all your mobs so he can sell a PL.

[ECDubz]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah....but no. If you are making people mad in game while swarming, you are either taking their mobs or training them. People don't just do a /who and start complaining about bards for no reason.

On top of that you are lvl 60, the only reason you would swarm anything is to sell PLs. Whats worse than a bard stealing all your mobs? A bard stealing all your mobs so he can sell a PL.

So your saying if there is 1 person in the zone i cannot sell a PL to a player willing to buy one? I dont go around taking mobs like most other bards i literally send out an OOC notifying the entire zone that i am powerleveling and they should call out their camps AND/OR send me a tell letting me know where they are so i can leave mobs for them. THIS is why i hate being a bard sometimes, you assume since i am 60 and that i PL i steal mobs from people who already have a claim in the zone or will want a claim in the future. I let people take off my swarms, i let people level in the areas im swarming in because guess what? I dont take every single mob in the area because im not a greedy person and the XP is minimal compared to what im pulling.

You obviously havent played a bard, people do /who bard and send you hate tells just for being in the zone because they assume your swarming if their mobs are not up.

Edit: btw your use of the word "stealing" is being misused in your post. If a mob is not part of a camp, in an outdoor zone, and wandering it cannot be claimed by any player. It is up to both parties (assuming there is more than 1 which most of the time theres not) to work out an arrangement. Any GM can tell you that communicating with players is key to avoiding conflicts and its encouraged. I do not steal mobs and people like you should stop treating every bard on the server like they are trash and should play a different class that they would rather not want to play.

This thread needs to be moved to RnF because its just here to piss people off at this point.

[drktmplr12]

Originally Posted by Malbolshia [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

...this weekend in LOIO...various camped areas (mainly Sarnak fortress ledge)...

LOIO is a popular place for bards. I'm surprised groups attempted to level there during double xp.

[simp403]

Unfortunately it seems like there's a 2:1 ratio of bad bards to good bards. Martygan has always been cool when I ran into him, as have most of the higher level bards. It seems like it's the lower level bards that tend to be bigger assholes. They also tend to be the ones to stop playing their bard when the swarm kiting stops being as viable an option at higher levels.

[sambal]

Yeah I logged in for about twenty minutes, and I quit again. For good this time. Bards, for me, are the deal breaker on this server. I've said it before, but I don't think bard kiting is "Classic(TM)" because of internet connectivity constraints that existed in that era. I saw bards attempt it back then, and they'd get a lagspike and drop dead. Also, graphics cards posed a certain kind of constraint as well, if they actually saw all the mobs chasing them, they'd lag out graphically and die.