Game Mechanics: Lord Vyemm's stats

[khanable]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sure it's doable, but not classic

Was a response to previous poster.

I'm in a agreement that something is a little off on the fight. Still leaning towards attack speed.

[Rogean]

This is the last time I will be giving out warnings before I start banning.

I asked for this thread to be created and information provided. We have already addressed ONE issue with the damage intervals of the mob, and at no point did we say we were done. We haven't even fully ironed out his attack speed yet.

You guys (red players mostly) need to drop the trolling, drop the passive aggressive bullshit, or fuck off.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fight is doable now. At 1000ac on beta I couldn't keep up. Almost certainly would go down eventually. I had to sit out on release and let non-iksar warriors tank it. =p

Classic is a 289 item AC hardcap, though, making most of that ToV gear superfluous for warriors. The cap wasn't raised until right before PoP.

[Terpuntine]

I would like to point out that I am enjoying Vyemm tuned the way he is, also please ban Nirgon.

[heartbrand]

The classic AC Cap argument has already been ruled moot because we can't recreate classic mob attack values.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by khanable [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was a response to previous poster.

I'm in a agreement that something is a little off on the fight. Still leaning towards attack speed.

i think it's more than just that, but yes his attack speed seems very, very high, and i cannot find any information out there regarding it, other than that small log that was posted earlier where there is a 2 second interval between each round, which doesn't really say much other than it has to be slower than 1 second and faster than 3 seconds

20% of attempted attacks being max hits on a 1450 AC tank seems pretty high

/GU Lord Vyemm in 118s, 78k @661dps --- Deetz 5k @55dps (6.51%) --- Rabid 5k @55dps (6.14%) --- Chiggen 4k @46dps (5.55%) --- Grannock 4k @42dps (5.4%) --- Cutter 4k @40dps (5.29%) --- Colgate 4k @32dps (4.67%) --- Tyrionn 3k @38dps (4.38%) --- Warbok 3k @32dps (4.03%) --- Bongaholic 3k @31dps (3.99%) --- Muhh 3k @30dps (3.71%)

this was our most recent attempt where we are barely outpacing his regen with nearly 800 melee dps and 75 people in the zone; i'm seeing 10 rogues, 6 monks, 3 rangers, 9 warriors, 2 epic mage pets on this parse

we got him to 92% hp after 100 seconds, so either his max HP is enormous now or his regen is enormous, seems extreme either way

[Rogean]

We do not use a hardcap. We have a softcap. This might not be exactly specific to classic but we have numerous reasons for having the code this way, and I'm not interested in starting a debate regarding that right now, so let's keep the thread on topic.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

it has to be slower than 1 second and faster than 3 seconds

I agree based on the log that it is higher than 1 second. I doubt it is slower than 2 seconds though. So somewhere between 1.0 and 2.0.

[Rogean]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

20% of attempted attacks being max hits on a 1450 AC tank seems pretty high

I disagree. 20% being max hit is appropriate for a raid boss, but I'd also have to look at your AC numbers from our side. 1450 means nothing to me (We use different values derived from item AC, Buff AC, and softcap formula).

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Rogean [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I agree based on the log that it is higher than 1 second. I doubt it is slower than 2 seconds though. So somewhere between 1.0 and 2.0.

are all NToV dragons the same attack speed? i would imagine they are all at least similar, so perhaps vyemm should be close to the rest of them