One thing I've learned from Velious release: Nobody gives a shit

[Bokke]

The only way teams will be even half successful on a server that will almost certainly be low population is if there is a discord team that can attack anyone, including each other.

[Humerox]

sure. make a non-team faction on a team server.

makes sense

[Eslade]

if you want a balanced teams server you have to make it so that if a faction has more than 5% than the lowest populated faction at our above level 20, you shut down the ability to make characters for that faction until the numbers correct themselves.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way teams will be even half successful on a server that will almost certainly be low population is if there is a discord team that can attack anyone, including each other.

They tried that on EQ2 and it worked out terribly (from a teams aspect). It basically became the only faction an end game raiding guild could be on due to the fact they could contest all 3 factions for open world spawns and had access to all race/class combos. It had its own charm, but it definitely undermined the entire idea of teams to begin with - your team became your guild, just like a FFA server.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

sure. make a non-team faction on a team server.

makes sense

No, make a discord team faction on a team server. Give it exp penalties, whatever.

Some of us actually want to be able to PvP.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

They tried that on EQ2 and it worked out terribly (from a teams aspect). It basically became the only faction an end game raiding guild could be on due to the fact they could contest all 3 factions for open world spawns and had access to all race/class combos. It had its own charm, but it definitely undermined the entire idea of teams to begin with - your team became your guild, just like a FFA server.

I expect this would happen yea. In my idea undermining the idea of 'teams' isn't a bad thing, I just think its a bad idea in general on a small population box. It wasn't even that great on live with xteaming guilds eventually forming.

[Kergan]

R99 is basically a two team server anyway. Only thing hardcoding it does is let people run chardok AE groups.

[wts]

Originally Posted by Humerox [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Guards not assisting on faction, broken resists, high grief mode...there were tons of reasons people left fast and with a bad taste in their mouths.

And now that <Empire> has won Velious there's not much point, really.

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This is why I hope they do a new server. Everyone has done such a great job of beta testing! It would be a shame not to use all they've learned to launch a new server with the finished, playable product.

[heartbrand]

They just need to make a discord box that's classic only and wipes every month.

[wts]

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The only way teams will be even half successful on a server that will almost certainly be low population is if there is a discord team that can attack anyone, including each other.

Great idea! An evil team where the evils can't be evil and attack each other ruins my immersion!

Originally Posted by Eslade [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

if you want a balanced teams server you have to make it so that if a faction has more than 5% than the lowest populated faction at our above level 20, you shut down the ability to make characters for that faction until the numbers correct themselves.

Good idea! Hopefully we'll get a teams beta server once the Velious dust settles.

Originally Posted by Bokke [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Some of us actually want to be able to PvP.

How dare you utter such heresy on these boards! Ban inc!