Trump was right

[paulgiamatti]

Originally Posted by Lune [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I really think it comes down to whether you believe one culture can be better than another.

I know it's in vogue right now among young people to believe in cultural relativism, that cultures are only different, not better or worse, and that we should blame whitey for the way Africa, South America, etc turned out, and that having a multicultural society adds something. I think that's patently false, and it represents a woeful inability to critically assess history and anthropology.

Culture is the single strongest determinant behind how well you prosper in modern society. Some cultures tend to be more conducive to better performance than others (Jews, Chinese, Vietnamese diaspora, Northern Europeans). It isn't about your 'race', the color of your skin, or any of that nonsense. It's about the deeply ingrained set of beliefs, behaviors, values, and cognitions that characterize your upbringing and the way you navigate your life and your community.

I like my culture. I generally like the way we do things here in the United States. I have no problem with immigrants, only as long as they eventually assimilate. I don't want the contribution of Mexican immigrants to be that California becomes more like Mexico. Now, there are other barriers to assimilation, including racism and economic/informal segregation, but that's another discussion.

Good post. I agree with all of this sans the bit about assimilation, only because I think there needs to be a wider conversation about cultural assimilation and what it ought or ought not to entail.

[paulgiamatti]

I guess another caveat I'd add is that I completely disagree that multiculturalism doesn't add anything to society. I sort of glossed over that part having so strongly agreed with Lune's remarks about cultural relativism, which I do think is a very toxifying ideology and is the sole reason we have idiots like Ben Affleck trying to tell everyone who criticizes Islam that they're racist.

So that's definitely a point of contention I'd put forth. I mean, I would hate to live in a country that actively works against a multicultural society, that wants to keep everything white-washed and sterile. But, at the same time, there is this really awful air of political correctness currently surrounding the left and liberalism as a whole which instills, and protracts, a huge amount of anxiety and white guilt in people who would otherwise be able to think for themselves.

[Madbad]

We wouldn't be having this discussion if it wasn't a cute white girl that got shot.

[Troof]

Boo this man!

[MrSparkle001]

I like how Mexico is very strict with their border though.

[Bigtokes]

Originally Posted by MrSparkle001 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I like how Mexico is very strict with their border though.

Americans may come through and take the jobs at the motor plants [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Glenzig]

Trump doesn't want Mexicans and south Americans to move away and leave his sweat shops.

[Rec]

north korea has landmines for their border, lets try that

[milsorgen]

Trump is an attention seeking blowhard. The narcissistic rambling speech he shat out would of been unlistenable were it not for the laughs.

[Lune]

Originally Posted by milsorgen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Trump is an attention seeking blowhard. The narcissistic rambling speech he shat out would of been unlistenable were it not for the laughs.

He's saying all the things the other Republican candidates want to say but can't because it would be political suicide. He's also temporarily redirecting the national dialogue away from issues that decimate Republicans, such as gay marriage, income inequality... and pretty much any other issue really. Immigration is one issue where I think Republicans can find a lot of support from centrists, and even people who normally lean to the left. I think a lot of people dislike how Democrats handle immigration. When you know Democrats are going to capture the Hispanic vote because of their shameless pandering to immigrants, both legal and illegal, taking this kind of hardline stance is a good way to gain the favor of frustrated whites.

I wouldn't be surprised if the RNC was paying him to run interference leading up to the campaign.

Of course, neither side really wants to do anything about illegal immigration. Cheap labor makes a lot of industries a lot of money, and our politicians are for sale. Like anything else, it's a rhetoric contest.