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[Kalex716]

Hi all. New player to the server here, and I figure I'll share my opinions and experiences so far.

Its interesting because I WAS going to be a TLP player, but long story short, I got over the client and sketchy hurdles and figured I would try out P99 while waiting and never looked back... I'm only level 27, but it only took one play session to realize exactly what the OP claims. This server is doing it better. I didn't even bother registering to play Ragefire at all.

What I like about P99 so far is, while their may be some cheating going on, this server is moderated and curated in such a way that its superior to pretty much any other paid for service out there! I love the no botting, no RMT'ing rules. I love the fact that these rules are also being aggressively enforced.

I also like how entrenched the community is, and their seems to be the sense that people put fair play first most of the time. I like knowing theirs some governing rules at the top end for raids, even if they don't always work its better than pure chaos.

What I don't like so far, is obvious... The server is crowded! At peek times, everything is camped. If its worth money, or xp, consider it locked up.

I'm only level 27 right now though, and I'm okay with the idea that on this server, how you "get jboots" and things like that, is you find a way to put together the kind of plat to buy it. I'll have to get creative.

I also am a little bummed that unlike the TLP, theirs no way to get out in front of the economy. Its nice farming up on a fresh server. On this server, I'm playing from WAYYYY behind.

I'm happy about stopping in velious. I didn't dig on Luclin that much, and PoP for the most part ruined the game for me, but did have some cool to it. The idea that we might see custom content someday is mildly attractive to me (probably ripped out of those two expansions), but the velious cap for now is perfect.

Thanks all.

[Uggme]

I have a friend who is super open minded about games. We are near the same age, but he never had the opportunity to play EQ back in 1999 / 2000. After talking to him about how great old EQ was I asked him if he wanted to sit with me one afternoon and watch me play, to see what he thought of it. He agreed.

We had a great time. He was in awe of the size of the world (made larger with scant few modes of fast travel). The pacing of exp really caught him by surprise also (wait, so getting 30% of one level in the 40s is good? There are some levels worse than this???) He also marveled at the idea of camps, that people could come together for a common goal to kill monsters for loot... And generally HAD to. Playing an SK I was able to show him I "could" solo.. Albeit poorly. After explaining thay some classes could solo better then others he asked "then why doesn't everyone play those??? Lol"

Even after this experience I couldn't get him to play. Classic EQ was a masterpiece in history. It's wonderful it's is being faithfully recreated here. But just as there is an art to, say, churn butter by hand, it's simply not for everyone. Times have changed. We have Diablo and Destiny instant gratification MMOs experiences which have cheapened online gaming. the destination had become now important than the journey now.

The problem, IMO, has less to do with what P99 can do to get people to play... I feel they can do no more really. The two issue with getting people to play is the changing MMO genre.

[Swish]

It is hard to feel immersed with your rusty short sword when the next guy has full class armor or a rogue epic at level 1.

If you want that "fresh" feel, the closest thing to it is on the red server. Red isn't drowning in excess items that you can buy for 50pp in the tunnel.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is hard to feel immersed with your rusty short sword when the next guy has full class armor or a rogue epic at level 1.

If you want that "fresh" feel, the closest thing to it is on the red server. Red isn't drowning in excess items that you can buy for 50pp in the tunnel.

I got extremely immersed last night in lower guk.

Was a full group at frenzied. Shaman had bloodstained tunic, rogue was using snare dagger, warrior had some crafted, cleric was wearing bronze.

Most immersed group I've seen in awhile. It reminded me of classic. Really hope they got an FBSS.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by Swish [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

It is hard to feel immersed with your rusty short sword when the next guy has full class armor or a rogue epic at level 1.

If you want that "fresh" feel, the closest thing to it is on the red server. Red isn't drowning in excess items that you can buy for 50pp in the tunnel.

Tried playing immersionquest recently, had a legit noob group for like 15 mins before some jerk came over and started handing out gear and ruined it.

Come to p99, it's challenging and rewarding btw here's a set of armor and a weapon that you couldn't possibly get on your own for 35 more levels.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Tried playing immersionquest recently, had a legit noob group for like 15 mins before some jerk came over and started handing out gear and ruined it.

Come to p99, it's challenging and rewarding btw here's a set of armor and a weapon that you couldn't possibly get on your own for 35 more levels.

If only your group had been playing in their own private instance of that content! Then that self-serving that jerk would not have been able to just waltz in and ruin your immersion like that. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[Kutsumo]

I just don't see Ragefire and P99 as competitive. P99 captures classic EQ to a wonderful degree, and is great for those of us who miss it and those who don't want to play past Classic (no luclin and beyond). As I'm sure has been mentioned a hundred times in this thread, Ragefire is not a classic server. It's just a chance to play through all the expansions (not just through velious) as current content again with all the current-day perks and patches in place. Many people prefer this, especially newer gamers who didn't experience classic EQ and would be disillusioned by all the inconveniences that make it so classic.

All the various patches over the years being in place makes it a completely different game from P99. I'm playing a ranger (with a sham box) because it's actually a fairly good class with all the melee buffs, no xp penalty, better spells (can you say panic animals in vanilla/kunark!?), and it'll just get better and better as the expansions unlock. Ranger has always been my favorite class, but I just haven't been able to bring myself to roll one on P99 due to so much going against it.

I'll be playing both servers actively to get my fix of both.

[Paleman]

ragefire is a joke. Let the ignorant play here and let p99 stay the way it is. The only thing I fear is that when people get disillusioned with the bullshit on ragefire come here, and it gives p99 server load issues, and even worse DBG decides to change its mind and serves a C&D because they cant hack it and want their customers back.

[kaev]

Originally Posted by Paleman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ragefire is a joke. Let the ignorant play here and let p99 stay the way it is. The only thing I fear is that when people get disillusioned with the bullshit on ragefire come here, and it gives p99 server load issues, and even worse DBG decides to change its mind and serves a C&D because they cant hack it and want their customers back.

I doubt there is all that much overlap between the two player groups. Daybreak is running "modern" EQ, which for all the reasons already posted to this thread is a far different game than the classic EQ p99 aims for. People who want to just log in and be rewarded for smacking some mobs around to unwind after work won't get what they're looking for on p99. People who abhor mass boxing and grotesquely overpowered classes and the other elements of modern EQ that minimize player interdependence won't like it on Ragefire.

The one segment of the player base that overlaps between such different games/environments is the self-congratulatory neckbeard types who think every MMO is another instance of Lord of the Flies Online. You know them, that entitled 10% who create 90% of the CS headaches, they're here, they're there, they're everywhere.

[Weekapaug]

Originally Posted by Paleman [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

ragefire is a joke. Let the ignorant play here and let p99 stay the way it is. The only thing I fear is that when people get disillusioned with the bullshit on ragefire come here, and it gives p99 server load issues, and even worse DBG decides to change its mind and serves a C&D because they cant hack it and want their customers back.

I wouldn't be all that concerned. Most of the type of people who ragequit ragefire are the whiney "show up and get handed everything" types. Long on nostalgia, short on patience and understanding of what "classic" truly is. They remember fondly their first group on orc hill or crushbone 15 years ago but they conveniently forget quitting when a hell level or pop flagging was too much for them and leaving for wow. Full of nostalgia but happily welcoming of no hell levels, no corpse runs, instancing, etc. Seriously, there have been people preaching Armageddon since dragons died 50 hours after server up....sitting at level 5 in an instanced newbie zone.

They are everywhere over there. Posts like "im not dealing with this queue and I'm going to p99" abound over the weekend because they couldn't play the very moment they wanted. They won't last a week over here when they realize nobody, most particularly the staff and devs, give a shit about their whiney demands.

On p99 being a classic restoration project is priority above all and that's exactly what will weed most of them out.