<Fresh> disbanded due to massive division in the guild caused by the alliance.

[Wrench]

Originally Posted by Chodan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

So where is the black and white?

your in the wrong place if your looking for clear cut good and bad here, stupid

this is a bunch of nerds playing pvp on a 15 year old elf sim, ever last bit of it is manufactured drama

either understand that and enjoy it, or move on

[Swish]

Originally Posted by Ezalor [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

any of fresh's successes happened in spite of max's leadership, not because of it

notice that not a single person itt cared max is no longer their gl

Rarely agree with Ezalor but he 100% correct on this.

My only real memories of Max are him getting killed in pvp a lot on his warrior, and deleveling to get away from it and/or boost himself on the leaderboard to try and even it out.

[MEGANS LAW]

Originally Posted by Chodan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?

i like u.

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.

noahs a scumsucking erudite lover but he's still a goog person

[karsten]

surely nothing bad can come of trying to do what forumquest tells one is the right thing to do

[VZ_Xanit K'ven]

[QUOTE=MEGANS LAW;1899778]

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.



Let Empire tell the opposing teams whats good for them, sounds legit

There is no more <Fresh>, no <New Fresh> and soon hopefully no <ReFresh>

United we stand, liberty or death

[Littlegyno 13.0]

[QUOTE=VZ_Xanit K'ven;1899821]

Originally Posted by MEGANS LAW [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

gardur is probably good leader 4 new fresh.



Let Empire tell the opposing teams whats good for them, sounds legit

There is no more <Fresh>, no <New Fresh> and soon hopefully no <ReFresh>

United we stand, liberty or death

who da fuk are u kid?

gardur probably best leader for fresh peeps. dunno giev a fuk wut kind of deal u make with el snouto, it won't work. he's a double crossing piglord from south of da border.

gardur will have 2 be careful 2 protect his younglings from him.

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Chodan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Was in Fresh before it disbanded.

I used to say that I was in this great guild with higher levels wanting to help everyone. And our gm was awesome because he orgnized leveling events in spite of how people hated on him. He was great because he inspired our guild and kept everyone together as a family.

Actually, no - didn't say these things ever. Never saw the guy other than when he would incite people to target our exp groups via reddit and other forum posts. The only helpful leadership were the officers.

On the other hand, haven't had a bad experience with empire even though they're supposed to be our mortal enemies. In fact, when they see our groups struggling, they would actually power level us.

So where is the black and white?

Ok. I know I haven't been in game in like 2 months due to rl stuff, but as of that point in time this isn't true. Max and the officers of Fresh have done a lot for the general population red, not to mention the guild itself. There was at least one event outside of Qeynos, I think there may have been a follow up to that one also, not sure. The gear recycling plant was an awesome idea that has helped a lot of people. I think I can only remember a handful of nights that Max wasn't on and helping the guild in some way. I'm not saying that was all 100% him. I'm sure it was a leadership decision, but I know he didn't oppose helping new members of the guild or the server.
Yeah he lost it a few times on raids. But at least when I was there up to a couple months ago he was very present and never demanded any gear for himself. I hope that Refresh carries on the tradition of need before greed /ran 100 loot distribution.

[pink grapefruit]

I had been told about some drama the Max guy caused that involved RL phone numbers and craigslist I think? Made me wary of joining Fresh.

Think now I will join the new guild.

[Colgate]

Originally Posted by Glenzig [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ok. I know I haven't been in game in like 2 months due to rl stuff, but as of that point in time this isn't true. Max and the officers of Fresh have done a lot for the general population red, not to mention the guild itself. There was at least one event outside of Qeynos, I think there may have been a follow up to that one also, not sure. The gear recycling plant was an awesome idea that has helped a lot of people. I think I can only remember a handful of nights that Max wasn't on and helping the guild in some way. I'm not saying that was all 100% him. I'm sure it was a leadership decision, but I know he didn't oppose helping new members of the guild or the server.
Yeah he lost it a few times on raids. But at least when I was there up to a couple months ago he was very present and never demanded any gear for himself. I hope that Refresh carries on the tradition of need before greed /ran 100 loot distribution.

Refresh will be disbanded later today and all members forced to take an Azrael tag

[Glenzig]

Originally Posted by Colgate [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Refresh will be disbanded later today and all members forced to take an Azrael tag

I guess that's possible. But doubtful.