Are there any ways/things we can do so the admins know we are not boxing?

[PDX0621]

Originally Posted by cyrusdark [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This isn't a pity-me post. Its a 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning to others. You might just walk back to a 30-Day suspension or worse. I'm certain the GMs are aware that with strict measures, you will occasionally get your conclusion wrong. They continue it as a 'greater good' situation and I can't fault that. Just, be careful. I didn't know the extent at which I would need to camp, etc., originally. I just trying to relay some of what I've learned so others don't have an unfortunate experience.

If you read the many stories and examples from people on the dozens of virtually same threads about this same topic, you'll note that the VAST majority of people who play together with their friends, PL their friends, play in the same house, etc, do so with no problems whatsoever. They are doing what they legitimately claim to be doing. If a GM expects them of violating rules, they run a test. The VAST majority of them are able to flawlessly pass, because they were legitimately not boxing.

There's no 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning necessary. If you want to play with someone, BE THERE. Don't try and skirt the rules, don't be shady, don't do things that would lead others or the GM's to think you're boxing. If you want to "cook" or "watch TV" or otherwise "leave the room" while you are ACTUALLY THERE, simply camp out.

You may not agree with the rules, or think you're following them, but your actions admittedly warrant potential suspicion, especially considering you claimed to have been tested for similar actions in the past.

TLDR - BE THERE, ACTUALLY PLAY, STOP LEAVING AND DOING OTHER STUFF. IF YOU MUST, CAMP OUT. DON'T BE SHADY.

[Champion_Standing]

Originally Posted by PDX0621 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

If you read the many stories and examples from people on the dozens of virtually same threads about this same topic, you'll note that the VAST majority of people who play together with their friends, PL their friends, play in the same house, etc, do so with no problems whatsoever. They are doing what they legitimately claim to be doing. If a GM expects them of violating rules, they run a test. The VAST majority of them are able to flawlessly pass, because they were legitimately not boxing.

There's no 'hide yo wife, hide yo kids' kind of warning necessary. If you want to play with someone, BE THERE. Don't try and skirt the rules, don't be shady, don't do things that would lead others or the GM's to think you're boxing. If you want to "cook" or "watch TV" or otherwise "leave the room" while you are ACTUALLY THERE, simply camp out.

You may not agree with the rules, or think you're following them, but your actions admittedly warrant potential suspicion, especially considering you claimed to have been tested for similar actions in the past.

TLDR - BE THERE, ACTUALLY PLAY, STOP LEAVING AND DOING OTHER STUFF. IF YOU MUST, CAMP OUT. DON'T BE SHADY.

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

[Supaskillz]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

The point is if you are not boxing, you have nothing to fear. That is all the OP needs to know. I have played with and met dozens of couples or roomates who play together regularly with no problems.

If there is suspicious behavior where it appears one players is doing almost nothing, the GM may test you to be sure you did not request an IP exemption to cheat the server rules. That is no big deal if you are not boxing, it will simply take 5 minutes of your time. Shit even if one of you is afk for a couple of minutes, that is not going to be a problem.

If you all want to argue over the merits of such a server rule, then thats a different matter, but I for one am glad boxing is not allowed so that I can find groups and socialize and have it feel more like it did in 1999/2000.

[PDX0621]

Originally Posted by Champion_Standing [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Would rather have some boxers get away with it than have legit players actually fearful and altering their play style just to avoid being suspected of boxing. Just sayin

Are you really so lazy that you cant simply camp out when you're going to be AFK for a while? Is it that hard? If you think the GM's are being too heavy handed, and people to paranoid, why give them more ammunition to suspect you of being a dirty whistle. C'mon now! How much "altering" of your playstyle is it to ask that you be presence and accountable when and where you're supposed to be? People keep trying to push the edge more and more, seeing what they can get away with. That's the problem. If you need more clarification of what I mean, let me know.

[imajester]

This brings up an interesting question. I just got a friend (played back in 2000 with me on The Nameless) to join and he just started a necro. I have a Shammy I can power level him with. Is is ok to say sit in the EC tunnel and buff him when he texts my phone or calls out over skype or something? I haven't done it yet, and I may just level up a toon with him instead, but I should find out if it is ok to buff him and be afk. We are not in the same household and have different IPs. Mine will even be two or more different IPs if I take my laptop to work to afk buff him when there.

What is the policy on something like that?

[Champion_Standing]

Wife and I played together for many hours and never had an encounter with a gm. But my friend and his wife have been "tested" and passed but were still told by the gm that he/she still believed they were boxing but didn't do anything to their accounts.

[BulletCatcher]

Originally Posted by soggygorilla [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

guys seriously this game is close to 20 years old. that being said, the fact your so worked up about something dumb like boxing is supremely retarded. honestly to even find some .... blah blah blah.

oh wow... you seem easily offended..You gotta apply for an IP exemption to get your wife online at the same time you want to be online. There is nothing wrong with the GMs needing to adapt and develop ways to maintain good play styles. This is a fan based server. countless time and effort have been put in by people who get no tangible reward from their tireless work. There is a lot of appreciation owed to these super fan devs. "Thanks for busting your hump(s) to make EQ a reality, also thank you for keeping up these great community conducive rule sets (no boxing, no griefing, etc.)"

You're so upset reading about people's concerns over dual boxing, yet you barely gave an effort to play on the server, and that blows your mind? You would have known about the IP problems had you read the documentation. But you didn't read the instructions.

http://www.project1999.com/forums/announcement.php?f=25

You had an unrealistic expectation. and you let your frustration get the best of you. I would encourage you to stick around. P99 is great. Apply for that IP exemption and get your wife in Norrath with you.

[entruil]

Originally Posted by BulletCatcher [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

There is nothing wrong with the GMs needing to adapt and develop ways to maintain good play styles. This is a fan based server.

yea... something doesnt sound right here... is it election time?

not a personal attack and i understand what it means... just makes me want to herd protestors.... bye

[Konu]

Originally Posted by entruil [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

yea... something doesnt sound right here... is it election time?

not a personal attack and i understand what it means... just makes me want to herd protestors.... bye

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[BulletCatcher]

Its a custom private server with specific rules that you have to follow. How is your private server coming along? So many people looking a gift horse in the mouth. Just saying...