Hybrid xp penalty

[kaev]

The only truly excellent element in all of the AD&D materials was the line in the Dungeon Master's Guide that said (don't have one handy for exact quote) "If you don't like these rules make up your own." By that standard EQ classic, the abomination that calls itself EQ today, and every other fantasy ruleset and variant thereof is as much "real AD&D" as the goofball ruleset Gygax published.

[Ac888]

Was comparing AD&D versions only, when I said "real AD&D". Of course, that was merely opinion based. I don't mind 2nd edition but I preferred 1st edition more.

By making up your own rules you could essentially change the game into an entirely new entity that would not even be recognizable as D&D. Then again look at how the mechanics and rules have changed in many games we love. I've always found it more enjoyable to sick to the rule set already laid out, with small tweaks to suit group size of course.

[ctre]

Xp penalty should not be removed!

Makes the want of a fatty for tankage more of a rarety.. and bring's that added value.
As a fatty tank is worth it. Or shaman fatty for that matter.

People Sniveling about how hard it is.. boo hoo.. go away.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by ctre [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Xp penalty should not be removed!

Makes the want of a fatty for tankage more of a rarety.. and bring's that added value.
As a fatty tank is worth it. Or shaman fatty for that matter.

People Sniveling about how hard it is.. boo hoo.. go away.

... racial penalties are staying. You're still going to have a -15% penalty on Ogre, and I think a -20% on Troll/Iksar.

[webrunner5]

Originally Posted by wormed [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

... racial penalties are staying. You're still going to have a -15% penalty on Ogre, and I think a -20% on Troll/Iksar.

I may be wrong but since they have 68% now they will have a 28% Racial penalty left?? I think only the 40% is coming off of Hybrids in Velious.

[wormed]

Originally Posted by webrunner5 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I may be wrong but since they have 68% now they will have a 28% Racial penalty left?? I think only the 40% is coming off of Hybrids in Velious.

See, I thought it was -20 for Ogres and -26 for Troll Iksar, but I checked Wiki and it had them at 15/20.

So I don't know.

EDIT: Just checked, they're multiplied, not added, that's why they ended up with 68%. So it will be a -15% for Ogres and -20% for Troll/Iksar since there will be no more Hybrid modifier.

Originally Posted by Ac888 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think because back in the day when you were paying $15 a month to play a long grindy game that needed time and dedication people were more hesitant to allow hybrids to join groups because it would slow down a process they were paying real money for. A terrible attitude but somewhat understandable.. I guess.

Now because this classic version has no subscription the attitude of people has changed, for the better. People are less reluctant about group combos and how much time is wasted away because there is no cost to it besides your time. We have to ability to sit back and enjoy and not worry about doing everything you need to do in that month of time before forking out more cash.

It's funny because I never, ever, remember having issues getting a group as a Paladin. Maybe it was due to people not truly understanding the hybrid exp penalty mechanics by that point? After my Paladin, I played a Rogue/Warrior so I never experienced issues there either. However, back when EQ was fresh, I could see that I didn't encounter problems due to the newness of the game.

[Ac888]

I think because back in the day when you were paying $15 a month to play a long grindy game that needed time and dedication people were more hesitant to allow hybrids to join groups because it would slow down a process they were paying real money for. A terrible attitude but somewhat understandable.. I guess.

Now because this classic version has no subscription the attitude of people has changed, for the better. People are less reluctant about group combos and how much time is wasted away because there is no cost to it besides your time. We have to ability to sit back and enjoy and not worry about doing everything you need to do in that month of time before forking out more cash.

[Cecily]

My gear is independent of my enjoyment of the ranger class, which will diminish to nothing when my ranger hit 60.
I like the penalty and you can't give me reasons for my opinion.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Cecily [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

My gear is independent of my enjoyment of the ranger class, which will diminish to nothing when my ranger hit 60.
I like the penalty and you can't give me reasons for my opinion.

No weaponshield?

Confirmed useless raid character in Velious.

[Dollar]

I am stating the obvious. Since you have been given all the loot your heart could desire.. the game ends at level 60 for you (which is why you dont care about the xp penalty. If you were a ranger in nearly any other guild or just starting you would have to hit level 60 and THEN you would start to slowly acquire your gear to complete your character.. You are slow to understand.