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Old 03-26-2015, 09:22 AM
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yeah, i think that this is the way it goes:

troll beats iksar because slam, armor (iksar can't even wear GEBs), and stats

troll beats ogre and barb because regen

oh yeah, i don't think it's been mentioned that iksar has forage, too. that puts them firmly above barb and probably tied with ogre.

i would roll troll, innoruuk, 25 stam, 5 wis, and pick the face with one eye poked out
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Old 03-26-2015, 09:25 AM
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Troll > Everything

Same regen as an iksar and can wear plate. Don't worry about being too big, you get Shrink spell and can make the potions too.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:07 AM
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Troll > Everything

Same regen as an iksar and can wear plate. Don't worry about being too big, you get Shrink spell and can make the potions too.
This ^

Troll is best hands down. I just started on this server and so happy I went troll

Iksar- no slam. That extra AC won't mean win/lose either way post 25-30. Inny swamp better then FoB (Smaller, more $ and can move into upper guk)

Barb- blind, no regen.

Ogre- no regen. For the few times that frontal slam immunity saves you, that regen has helped you for the first 35+ levels which is a lot of IRL time.

...and a few things people seem to never mention.

- Those Inny necklaces (str debuff, str drain,snare). They really help up to when you get the snare one at lvl 15. I'm using the first two at lvl 14 and that's -25 str combined to that yellow mob I'm solo'ing.

- The lack of downtime due to regen can't be over stated. Once you get to 60?? All that time I'm running by a sitting ogre/barb shaman doesn't make me worried about what's going to happen in 45 lvls

- We are sexy. That big green junk in the trunk? Those druids port me for free
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:39 PM
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troll beats ogre and barb before you get Torpor because regen

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Troll > Everything before you get Torpor
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Seriously though, I'm not saying Trolls are bad, and statistically speaking I'd imagine the majority of the Shaman on this server never get Torpor. But IF you plan to get 60, get Torpor, and then play that character for a long time afterwards (which, realistically, you're probably only going to do if you are in to raiding) ... then keep in mind that regen pretty much stops being useful at that point.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:53 PM
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Seriously though, I'm not saying Trolls are bad, and statistically speaking I'd imagine the majority of the Shaman on this server never get Torpor. But IF you plan to get 60, get Torpor, and then play that character for a long time afterwards (which, realistically, you're probably only going to do if you are in to raiding) ... then keep in mind that regen pretty much stops being useful at that point.
You won't get torpor if you never get 60, and being a troll will make it easier to get there. Also it's not like regen counters torpor, shaman at 60 will still cast fungal regrowth and wear fungi tunics. Is torpor more important than those things? Yes, but it's not like those things stop being useful.

Also if you go troll/iksar and cazic, very nice item to use 35-54 or so http://wiki.project1999.com/Initiate...of_Cazic_Thule, can also make good use of it through 60 if you're creative.
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Old 03-26-2015, 09:57 AM
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I think if I could keep my troll brownie sized all the time, I'd play one.
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Old 03-26-2015, 10:43 AM
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If you roll anything but Iksar, just remember to ALWAYS play in first person.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:40 PM
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disciple of innorruuk
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i would roll troll, innoruuk, 25 stam, 5 wis, and pick the face with one eye poked out
What is this disciple of innorruuk? Why is it important to be innorruuk diety?

BTW I would pick troll.
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Old 03-26-2015, 01:47 PM
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What is this disciple of innorruuk? Why is it important to be innorruuk diety?

BTW I would pick troll.
Innoruuk clerics and shaman get a clickie snares.. its kinda weak and sad but better than no snare
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Old 03-26-2015, 02:04 PM
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What is this disciple of innorruuk? Why is it important to be innorruuk diety?

BTW I would pick troll.
click my link in the post you quoted
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