Pvp level limit discussion

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by erog84 [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I think some of the 60's who jump on their twink alts occasionally do so because they dont currently see 60 pvp happening, and they want to pvp. I will log on on my highlvl toon and look for pvp, and when I can't find it easily enough (im not a porter, so jumping around to every zone isn't as easy), then sometimes I will log on a lower lvl toon to group. If i had a current twink, I would just log on that and kill someone to pass some time.

That is such bs. Making a level 20 with ragebringer and fungus to pvp is the act of someone who enjoys tormenting others, nothing more.

[BardPop]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Nail on the head there. If we didn't have a bunch of legitimate sociopaths playing here you wouldn't need a strategy to counter the griefing in the first place.

This place makes the SZ population look like a bunch of nuns.

The thing that makes this server one of the worst is that all the griefers have been doing eq for so long it has warped them in ways. As a former rehabilitated eq junkie its pretty predictable, none of the dicks on here have something going for them all they got is eq and drugs if they have any.

Back on sz it was new and everybody was young enough to have not failed, now you got bitter people taking it out on the game. I only play here because I can do it on my terms

For the record the level of grief here is still minimal thx to our friendly 'lns' policy. Take away the avenue of grief and they can't grief, and all the griefer players at the low end just get blown away like dust in the wind.

[BardPop]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is such bs. Making a level 20 with ragebringer and fungus to pvp is the act of someone who enjoys tormenting others, nothing more.

Ya we know lool is azrael he had a cleric following him around a month ago, anarak unguilded and lower is some fresh member. Its not terrible that theres less then 10 of them for all of the popular faydwer zones up to 30ish, and past that the newbies are basically in the clear of all of them. Not terrible at all

[Kergan]

Just the act of having teams on SZ makes the situation different. You can't talk to them, you can't group with them, guild with them, etc. It dehumanizes them into fancy NPCs.

[erog84]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That is such bs. Making a level 20 with ragebringer and fungus to pvp is the act of someone who enjoys tormenting others, nothing more.

That must be the only reason.... OR they could also

- Not be very good at pvp and need that advantage.
- Enjoy attacking full groups
- Attack people getting powerlvled from highlvls
- Attack the other twinks to defend the noobs (there is a few who do that).

And if they really are doing it to "torment" others, who cares, its a pvp server. I was in unrest last week and a full group ran off a twink multiple times. In mm a few weeks ago multiple twinks had to plug against a group of non twinks who just worked together well. And that isn't even talking about how there are more than just crushbone/mistmoore/unrest to lvl up in. When I first started about half the twinks I ran into were really cool, they would only kill me once and let me cr and keep lvling, didn't even have to LNS. Some even gave me some change and advice on pvp. Most "griefers" will continue to grief if you are constantly crying about it, but if you chill out for a minute and just chit chat with them, they are pretty cool.

I know a lot of eq hate talking about WOW... but lvling up in stranglethorn vale on my first toon constantly mousing around to watch 360 degrees every 20 seconds and getting jumped every 5 minutes was what I really enjoyed. I got slaughtered by 60's quite often, but there was a few times me and my buddy, at lvl 35 were able to kill the 60's jumping us (obviously they were terrible players). Some people enjoy that, others have even posted on the forums about that thrill that got them hooked on red.

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by BardPop [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Ya we know lool is azrael he had a cleric following him around a month ago, anarak unguilded and lower is some fresh member. Its not terrible that theres less then 10 of them for all of the popular faydwer zones up to 30ish, and past that the newbies are basically in the clear of all of them. Not terrible at all

I actually blame the Azrael people a lot less than others for making those twinks as compared to some old Nihilum people for example. It may come as a shock to some but I'll openly admit that pound for pound Azrael had more skill than Nihilum and that was a direct result of fighting against the odds or with lower numbers the vast majority of the time.

At some point you just need to release some aggression and murder the fuck out of people in the easiest way possible. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

That being said, there is a big difference between blowing off some steam for an hour once a week and being in the newbie zones 8 hours a day.

[BardPop]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

. You can't talk to them

You could talk to them

[Chronoburn]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Just the act of having teams on SZ makes the situation different.

Bingo. We have a winner.

[Emoteen]

I love(d) the SZ rule set. Right now we have twinks engaging exp groups of lower levels +/-4. If it opened up to all levels we would have 60's engaging the lower level groups, other 60s coming to fight them, and increased pvp. Hell, we might even see a PK guild, and anti PK guild, and an anti anti PK guild.

Or just do teams, no LNS, trains Ok, no level limit... <3