Possible to make plugging =YT and death?

[Bodybagger]

Too easy for the twinks who are smart/skilled to just bag shit or pull off an hp ring and suicide away from item loot honestly. It really just limits the griefing pvp to lvl 1-20, maybe 30ish... where they can avoid burst dps kill power of higher level nukes and stabs

It would help some but definitely isn't a complete solution to twinks, unless other twinks actively start hunting the twinks for item loot which if they don't hunt them now I doubt they'd bother then still

[Kergan]

Item loot is pretty cool in classic when there are a relatively small amount of super high end droppables. It's basically PVP oriented stuff like diamond rings changing hands. Once you hit Kunark it just becomes a completely out of whack risk vs reward, losing a trak BP or RBG because your cable connection took a shit. By Velious it becomes essentially worthless because you can have full non drop BiS.

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Kergan [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Item loot is pretty cool in classic when there are a relatively small amount of super high end droppables. It's basically PVP oriented stuff like diamond rings changing hands. Once you hit Kunark it just becomes a completely out of whack risk vs reward, losing a trak BP or RBG because your cable connection took a shit. By Velious it becomes essentially worthless because you can have full non drop BiS.

Change the velious items to droppable?

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Akalakamelee [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Change the velious items to droppable?

problem is it isn't as hard to gank someone as it is to raid sleeper and get phat loots, so it's somewhat imbalanced for time spent to earn gear I guess...

[Bodybagger]

Yeah but I like the system that just takes wind form sails of griefers and makes them high bounties for anit griefing, true low lvl pvp. I do think PVP is meant and can be very fun to enjoy, at any level range, not just 45/50+ but current leaderboard lends itself directly to douchebaggery for high scores. like what stops me form being a lvl 9 fungi twink monk and YT'ing everyone with 0 consequence if I die because no YT?

What makes my kills against rags characters as valuable as true pvp against a skilled/geared opponent? What on leaderboard accounts for assists etc? It's all just bad form imo and lends itself to worse pvp. Should be taken down til improvements made to have KPI's that truly reflect skilled pvp. Til then, even YT most people get is more than they deserve haha

[Akalakamelee]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but I like the system that just takes wind form sails of griefers and makes them high bounties for anit griefing, true low lvl pvp. I do think PVP is meant and can be very fun to enjoy, at any level range, not just 45/50+ but current leaderboard lends itself directly to douchebaggery for high scores. like what stops me form being a lvl 9 fungi twink monk and YT'ing everyone with 0 consequence if I die because no YT?

What makes my kills against rags characters as valuable as true pvp against a skilled/geared opponent? What on leaderboard accounts for assists etc? It's all just bad form imo and lends itself to worse pvp. Should be taken down til improvements made to have KPI's that truly reflect skilled pvp. Til then, even YT most people get is more than they deserve haha

YT can't happen until lvl 10, all lvl ranges of pvp are fun. It would be nice to adjust the system to discourage griefing

[Kergan]

Originally Posted by Bodybagger [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Yeah but I like the system that just takes wind form sails of griefers and makes them high bounties for anit griefing, true low lvl pvp. I do think PVP is meant and can be very fun to enjoy, at any level range, not just 45/50+ but current leaderboard lends itself directly to douchebaggery for high scores. like what stops me form being a lvl 9 fungi twink monk and YT'ing everyone with 0 consequence if I die because no YT?

What makes my kills against rags characters as valuable as true pvp against a skilled/geared opponent? What on leaderboard accounts for assists etc? It's all just bad form imo and lends itself to worse pvp. Should be taken down til improvements made to have KPI's that truly reflect skilled pvp. Til then, even YT most people get is more than they deserve haha

The frustrating part is pretty much every other PVP server ever created has had in-game leaderboards that do things like track assists, give credit for healing, etc. There just seems to be no interest in doing that here so we end up with half assed player run leaderboards (not due to lack of effort on their part, just due to lack of a true API to access information like player level/class).

[Bodybagger]

Is it not based on character dying lvl though? or does it check both character levels to be greater than 10 for YT?

[Kergan]

There is a reason those items are non drop, so you have to participate in killing the raid target to get it. EQ is a PVE based game and you can't destroy the PVE balance for the sake of PVP or the entire game goes to shit.

[vouss]

Holy fuck bodybagger and alakamelee's posts are fucking awful