"Classic" feeling shifting?

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

This is part of the equation yes.

The other part is that those types of items rot, get destroyed, given to pets or sold to vendors because they aren't worth spending 2 hours in EC to sell. My personal favorite since the latest patch is just trade them to a charmed NPC and leave the zone. Let them discover a Green Jade Broadsword on a decaying skeleton.

However if there were a bazaar maybe they'd be worth the bag space to list on your trader overnight. Then newbies would have the ability to work towards buying some of these items.

There would still be people who give them away as well.

You're right, people might be more inclined to sell 50-100pp items if they didn't have to actively sell the items.

[Taminy]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I just tire of the people who complain that PoK books made the world smaller, they reduced interaction with players and yet on this server expect me to port them to a zone 2 zones away, sow them and buff them. Especially if these are /role or /Anon people who have 0 problem hiding their class and never making themselves available to requests for assistance/interacting with other players. Yet will always send me requests for ports buffs or PLs.

I'm utterly anti PoK books and I never bug druids or wizards for ports with /tell unless they are advertising their services or in dial a port. I always just OOC paying 100 plat for a port or bug my guild. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some reason I get annoyed when people say "donating for buffs" or "donating for port or res". Donating what? 2 copper? 1,000 plat? Maybe a dick move but I'll usually buff people for free on my shaman if they ask (as long as they don't use stupid abbreviations like plz) or buff them if they offer a specific amount, but if they say donating - never.

[Jigawatts]

Daldaen, now I will admit that I spend most of my time with /role on, and a good number of my ports have been from OT, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've been truly stiffed. Usually its 30-50p every single time.

[Itap]

Originally Posted by Taminy [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm utterly anti PoK books and I never bug druids or wizards for ports with /tell unless they are advertising their services or in dial a port. I always just OOC paying 100 plat for a port or bug my guild. [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

For some reason I get annoyed when people say "donating for buffs" or "donating for port or res". Donating what? 2 copper? 1,000 plat? Maybe a dick move but I'll usually buff people for free on my shaman if they ask (as long as they don't use stupid abbreviations like plz) or buff them if they offer a specific amount, but if they say donating - never.

You seem like a really cool person to hangout with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[kaev]

Originally Posted by h4tch [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would play PoP if Luclin didn't exist, and no PoK ports.

Luclin sucked, PoP sucked, hell Velious sucked in a lot of ways but we seem to be stuck with it. I say we should just skip to LoY without Luclin or PoP. No new classes, races, or race/class combos beyond what we have in Velious, especially no "mounts". Let the various flavors of furries (swamptoads, mooncats, pervertlords, mounties, all of 'em) get their jollies elsewhere.

[Daldaen]

Originally Posted by Jigawatts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Daldaen, now I will admit that I spend most of my time with /role on, and a good number of my ports have been from OT, but I can count on one hand the number of times I've been truly stiffed. Usually its 30-50p every single time.

Even with a plat donation, I really don't care about porting. If I were concerned about 30-50 plat donations I would advertise a porting service (something I don't recall ever doing on this server... Maybe many moons ago).

It's the fact that these people are too lazy to run, would rather bother a porter or pay them plat, to avoid having to travel 2-3 zones... Then they also say that PoK books making the world feel smaller was one of the worst things to happen to EQ. They're choosing to keep the small world feel by asking or donating for ports instead of traveling on their non-port class. Just doesn't make sense.

If you think PoK books are terrible, start running around more. Or get a bard to travel with you with selos since player interaction seems to be a huge concern to so many. That would be some actual interaction, running around Norrath with a selos bard. Trying to suggest interacting with porters is anything more than a request for port and thanks/buff requests is nonsense.

[Grizzled]

The luclin translocator guys were nice. I mean lets face it the boats on live were ALWAYS broken. It was still upto a 15 min wait for each port. You still had some down time for unassisted travel. Luclin its self was all on the moon and absolutely does not fit everquest in any way shape or form.

The bazaar always struck me as a loss for the game. I always thought if people wanted to be merchants in a sword and shield game, the computer should not be doing it for them. I remember hitting ec a few days after luclin was released. It was quiet and it was damned creepy.

Planes and Powers was an absolutely awesome expansion. But in dealing with planes they left out the original planes. A key should have had to of been obtained from a piece from each of the older planes. A key to gain access to plane of tranq. Then resume the expansion from there.

Poknowledge and books/stones. that is a 50/50 split. Made travel easier to get to groups/raids. Most people who hated them back in the day were the people who profited off not having them. Knowledge gave every class access to every spell. I never did like wis casters got almost all their spells from vendors and int casters had to research/ get drops.

LDON was a good concept but poorly implemented ( i believe). Gear modification is a great idea. I just didnt care for instances, with a special currency, and special vendors. Better way is getting a quest box that ignores lore and can only contain a specific item for that quest. this way you can take a specific piece of dropped loot and put both in, combine and get the new fixed piece.

AA was the best part of the game for me. I wanst and still am not a fan of alts. This allowed me to do something beneficial with my toon other than pile more money up or power level someones alt.

my 2 cp

[Taminy]

Originally Posted by Itap [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

You seem like a really cool person to hangout with [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I would never deny that.

That said, I just like people to be direct. General beating around the bush is a pet peeve.

[Bodybagger]

Originally Posted by Daldaen [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Even with a plat donation, I really don't care about porting. If I were concerned about 30-50 plat donations I would advertise a porting service (something I don't recall ever doing on this server... Maybe many moons ago).

It's the fact that these people are too lazy to run, would rather bother a porter or pay them plat, to avoid having to travel 2-3 zones... Then they also say that PoK books making the world feel smaller was one of the worst things to happen to EQ. They're choosing to keep the small world feel by asking or donating for ports instead of traveling on their non-port class. Just doesn't make sense.

If you think PoK books are terrible, start running around more. Or get a bard to travel with you with selos since player interaction seems to be a huge concern to so many. That would be some actual interaction, running around Norrath with a selos bard. Trying to suggest interacting with porters is anything more than a request for port and thanks/buff requests is nonsense.

I run unless I need to get somewhere too dangerous for me to cross a zone. I run even without run speed. I will ask any sham/druid along the way for a sow... and I'm a newb who does well to get spells and basic gear so I don't really donate either *shrug* part of the game. You don't have to be generous with your time, be an old mizer and never sow or port anyone, more power to you. Don't blame others for your lack of desire to do one of your classes intended roles though... surely you've benefitted from many many people in groups along the way to the top/wherever you feel you are now, and surely those weren't all mutully beneficial situations...

hell in just the past 2 days I've duo'd on my SK with 2 druids and an enchanter, all basic newbs and all people I was straight carrying, all but sitting there afk (keeping me company while I demolished uguk for us) and I know one day they will be far more useful to other people than me, but hopeful they will remember that and always pay it forwards too. I even went out of my way to get one druid a ress when he died and hadn't bound and was at felwithe, and no druids would pick him up.

....way to betray your own kind! [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

[maahes]

Originally Posted by Jigawatts [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'd be down for the addition of the PoP raids, without the monstrosity known as the "Plane of Knowledge".

Well said. PoP was the expansion that ruined the game for me, because it was so near perfection, books were really the only true flaw. PoP was too good, every xpac after was clear to be a massive disappointment, as it was. Raiding done perfect!