Guthrie Rocks

[quido]

Yeah as Guthrie said, to play Jazz and chromaticism or whatever you really should like how it sounds first. Some people try to learn modal playing and whatever just because they think they're supposed to, like it's some sort of natural progression. Arnold Schoenberg had a similar view on classical music in the early 1900s and put together an abomination called the 12-tone system.

I don't like a lot of jazz playing - it is way too terse and nonsensical. However Guthrie does what is mostly rock music with some jazz here and there. And it's never jazz for the sake of jazz.

[DetroitVelvetSmooth]

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[Tann]

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Carey's alright I guess. For a mainstream dude.

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[Aviann]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I don't like a lot of jazz playing - it is way too terse and nonsensical. However Guthrie does what is mostly rock music with some jazz here and there. And it's never jazz for the sake of jazz.

To say Jazz is too nonsensical is to not know the style and chemistry of Jazz at all. When most of these individuals either go to school or train at home under Jazz, its usually for the transitioning on the fret board and how soulful a simple misplaced step can come off in-between transition.

You'd be surprised how many big timers first undertook the learning of jazz, only to play metal or country music on the stage. Its really a big first step, but jazz guitar is by far one of the hardest and most knowledgeable ways to play these days, or at least start off learning.

Not everyone has dreams of playing on a box amp on the side of Bourbon street as a nobody, and Jazz guitar has helped a lot of musicians get to the point where that isn't even their forte anymore. I always wanted to go to school for Jazz guitar, but I never wanted to play Jazz. Still do, and still don't.

[quido]

I'm aware that it's not total nonsense, just some people are happy to have it sound as such sometimes - a bit too atonal and avant garde at times. Chromaticism for the sake of chromaticism sounds awful. Just like most things, 90% of examples from a given whatever are complete shit that you have to sift through.

[Aviann]

Originally Posted by quido [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I'm aware that it's not total nonsense, just some people are happy to have it sound as such sometimes - a bit too atonal and avant garde at times. Chromaticism for the sake of chromaticism sounds awful. Just like most things, 90% of examples from a given whatever are complete shit that you have to sift through.

You're damn right, and that's what makes the rest of us stand above. I hate the nonsensical shit that I keep hearing in person, but every once in a while, I can't help but admire the way some take that Jazz transition, and make it into something so seamless and perfect, in a totally different genre of tempo and playstyle than what was expected.

[TAK]

Shit sucks pal, I can't mosh to that.

Prefer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqqyXacqON4

[TAK]

Music is supposed to make you "feel" something, and no one is going to feel anything form some dude who just sits in a chair playing chromatic sweep after chromatic sweep; that shit is boring as fuck and leads to an audience doing nothing but smoking outside and or sitting up against the walls.

The only people who would even be into that shit, are just nerds who keep a 500+ youtube channel filled with Pastorius/Vai Masterclass videos, and debate that shit with other nerds who have the same fucking videos.