Raid scene: Variance Socking

[Buriedpast]

Originally Posted by texwilly [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Thanks for the personal attack Motec, I actually know you better than you think. I never claimed to be "superhotshit", I was providing my background so people could decide my credibility or not. Beyond the insults though, my experiences in AV (not FE mind you) were of similar timelines as where we sit now. This "uber-guild" mentality is retarded because we are not trying to make this major push for new content. That fucking ended about 2 years ago. We are all farming shit now, not figuring new content out.

Server staff wants competition. Realistic solution is to eliminate it and play nice in the sand box. Class R already figured it out, class C neckbeards are too stubborn, resulting in all kinds of weird bullshit rules and lawyering. This problem is unsolvable without more content or a new server, as you eluded to "Project 2000" which I support as well, but I called it the "green" server.

No need to flame me back, as I know will be your first reaction.

If you knew a single thing about me you would know a bloody hate the server rules, and have been asking for a project 2000 Vazaelle timeline when velious launches for years. Not now. Not a month before, not a month after. When it launches.

And above is right, it would gain 4 years of server funding almost immediately on kickstarter or a forum donation push. I'd happily monetarily support it well beyond what most would.

Idea for me would be similar to vaz. No manastones, bind lockets etc.

No flames either, as you obviously don't know me well. I'm a pacifist bluebie. All we would need is some server rules somewhat similar to current class R. Just let us out of the shitfight that is current blue that won't abate.

[Buriedpast]

When velious launches, make project 2000. Have an enforced rotation from day dot with 24hr unimpeded access to mobs on each guilds slot for multiple attempts. Real time classic progression applying patches as the day goes on. Aka 2014 Vazaelle timeline.

[Brocode]

The fun of raids is the challenge, which here is 0, competitions adds to it, but here theres only competition.

Scale the difficulty to a harder level on raid scene, and you might see the changes on the pop socking. Might require coding, which staff avoid at all costs, but an idea.

Want an example? Sleeper in the Zek Server, mob was so strong that a Red Server guilds cooperated to kill the mob overachieving the impossible. (if you missed that http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008...659416,3.shtml)

[Faiding]

Originally Posted by Brocode [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

The fun of raids is the challenge, which here is 0, competitions adds to it, but here theres only competition.

Scale the difficulty to a harder level on raid scene, and you might see the changes on the pop socking. Might require coding, which staff avoid at all costs, but an idea.

Want an example? Sleeper in the Zek Server, mob was so strong that a Red Server guilds cooperated to kill the mob overachieving the impossible. (if you missed that http://news.mmosite.com/content/2008...659416,3.shtml)

Artificially adjusting raid mob difficulty raises issues of gear scalability and balance, that I imagine would be well out of the scope of anything P99 devs would want to deal with.

Velious will smooth things out a bit. But it's really up to the CSR staff to enact rules/rotations that compensate for the prolonged gap between expansions and lack of servers.

Or simply add more servers, but that's quite pricey when you're not making any money.

[Brocode]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Artificially adjusting raid mob difficulty raises issues of gear scalability and balance, that I imagine would be well out of the scope of anything P99 devs would want to deal with.

Velious will smooth things out a bit. But it's really up to the CSR staff to enact rules/rotations that compensate for the prolonged gap between expansions and lack of servers.

Or simply add more servers, but that's quite pricey when you're not making any money.

The amount of players over a 32k HP dragon = instant over kill. Maybe should take a different perspective , thats why i said scaling (as gear will affect depend how would you implement that balance), what does raid term means? 6 players? 12? 18? 24? 72 was the number when EQ raid window arrived. There will never be a perfect system, but there are better ones than others.

[Raev]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Or simply add more servers, but that's quite pricey when you're not making any money.

I guarantee a $20,000 kickstarter for Project 2000 would be funded within 24 hours.

[Doil_Boil]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guarantee a $20,000 kickstarter for Project 2000 would be funded within 24 hours.

Unfortunately I doubt the staff are likely to do that until Velious has been released, considering that needs to be their main focus atm.

I think we need to show support and solidarity towards the beta server becoming a new p99 continual refresh server and the current blue becoming a "Legacy" server that it dumps into after a certain amount of time.

[Culkasi]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guarantee a $20,000 kickstarter for Project 2000 would be funded within 24 hours.

Also, this

[Faiding]

Originally Posted by Raev [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

I guarantee a $20,000 kickstarter for Project 2000 would be funded within 24 hours.

A kickstarter campaign would probably raise some intellectual property copyright issues with Sony. I'd happily support one, though.

[derpcake]

Originally Posted by Faiding [You must be logged in to view images. Log in or Register.]

Velious will smooth things out a bit. But it's really up to the CSR staff to enact rules/rotations that compensate for the prolonged gap between expansions and lack of servers.

Velious is going to ensure the hardcore neckbeards quickly gain a massive gear advantage, allowing their alts to sock in superior ways.

Ntov geared alts a ton stronger then BIS kunark mains.

With as many people as blue has, there is no way everyone is getting a piece of the pie.